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'24' Season 5 (SPOILERS)
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Sinclair
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That was one hell of a season opener. My DVR didn't get the last 10 minutes of it so could anyone fill me in on what happened after Novick met the the president?
I sure as hell didn't see Palmer's assassination coming. That caught me totally off-guard. Even Michelle's death surprised me. I'm really interested in seeing where this is going. Hell yeah for another nonstop season.
That was one hell of a season opener. My DVR didn't get the last 10 minutes of it so could anyone fill me in on what happened after Novick met the the president?
I sure as hell didn't see Palmer's assassination coming. That caught me totally off-guard. Even Michelle's death surprised me. I'm really interested in seeing where this is going. Hell yeah for another nonstop season.
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I forget some of the names of the new characters, but I'll try and fill you in.
Jack dropped the kid off at the airport and went inside to find the room that was mentioned in Palmer's encrypted records. While he is doing that, the kid and his mom are leaving when the kid spots some men getting out of a black van/truck and going inside the airport. The kid decides he has to warn Jack and heads inside to find him.
Jack finds the room and starts to question a security guy inside. Guy says he doesn't know anything and there is an explosion outside as the black truck bursts into flames. While Jack is distracted, the security guy swallows a pill and kills himself.
The guys from the van who are in the airport start shooting and making everyone get on the ground. He says everyone will be ok, that the President is now hearing their demands. The kid is now trapped in the airport with the terrorists and Jack, of course, is in the building.
Forget what else happened in the last 10 min...oh the aide to the President that was helping him with Mrs. Logan and getting the recording of the call she had with Palmer, we see him on a cell phone call saying that he had time to edit the recording before the President heard it. Guess he's the spider in the web.
I forget some of the names of the new characters, but I'll try and fill you in.
Jack dropped the kid off at the airport and went inside to find the room that was mentioned in Palmer's encrypted records. While he is doing that, the kid and his mom are leaving when the kid spots some men getting out of a black van/truck and going inside the airport. The kid decides he has to warn Jack and heads inside to find him.
Jack finds the room and starts to question a security guy inside. Guy says he doesn't know anything and there is an explosion outside as the black truck bursts into flames. While Jack is distracted, the security guy swallows a pill and kills himself.
The guys from the van who are in the airport start shooting and making everyone get on the ground. He says everyone will be ok, that the President is now hearing their demands. The kid is now trapped in the airport with the terrorists and Jack, of course, is in the building.
Forget what else happened in the last 10 min...oh the aide to the President that was helping him with Mrs. Logan and getting the recording of the call she had with Palmer, we see him on a cell phone call saying that he had time to edit the recording before the President heard it. Guess he's the spider in the web.
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Thanks alot for that recap. I am sure that is enough to get me by.
One thing that has always amazed me about this show, and really one of the main points at which I have to suspend some belief, is how these enemy organizations are always able to get help from so high up the preverbial food chain. Seems like someone working for the Pres or the CTU is always on the take. I think they need a better resume screening process...
Thanks alot for that recap. I am sure that is enough to get me by.
One thing that has always amazed me about this show, and really one of the main points at which I have to suspend some belief, is how these enemy organizations are always able to get help from so high up the preverbial food chain. Seems like someone working for the Pres or the CTU is always on the take. I think they need a better resume screening process...
crazybillyo
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I suppose that was 24's way of cleaning house. I had a funny feeling something was going to happen when Palmer stepped in front of that window. Michelle was a bit more of a surprise.
My only gripe about the first couple of minutes is that everything happened way too fast. In a matter of so few minutes everybody seemed to know so much about the situation. Granted, it's the kind of thing that most would want to know about right away, but it still seemed odd to me.
I suppose that was 24's way of cleaning house. I had a funny feeling something was going to happen when Palmer stepped in front of that window. Michelle was a bit more of a surprise.
My only gripe about the first couple of minutes is that everything happened way too fast. In a matter of so few minutes everybody seemed to know so much about the situation. Granted, it's the kind of thing that most would want to know about right away, but it still seemed odd to me.
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It wasn't so much that the President heard so quickly about Palmer being killed, as one would think since his bro was there he would call the Secret Service and they would notify the President right away, as well as CTU. It was that Tony/Michelle got hit --- two people retired from CTU, and somehow someone was there to call an ambulance, this person somehow new they worked for CTU so they contacted them, then CTU sent an ambulance to pick Tony up ---- all within the span of 15min. That one was a little bit rushed.
Although I have always said, Season 1 and most of Season 2 they did a good job at trying to keep things "real time" in 24 hours. In fact Keifer used to say "all events happen in real time" those first two years. However Seasons 3-4 (and 5 apparently) do advance things along quicker than what could truly happen in real time, and they also ditched that bit of opening dialogue from Kiefer. So they basically try to advance things at the speed of plot without getting TOO crazy.
It wasn't so much that the President heard so quickly about Palmer being killed, as one would think since his bro was there he would call the Secret Service and they would notify the President right away, as well as CTU. It was that Tony/Michelle got hit --- two people retired from CTU, and somehow someone was there to call an ambulance, this person somehow new they worked for CTU so they contacted them, then CTU sent an ambulance to pick Tony up ---- all within the span of 15min. That one was a little bit rushed.
Although I have always said, Season 1 and most of Season 2 they did a good job at trying to keep things "real time" in 24 hours. In fact Keifer used to say "all events happen in real time" those first two years. However Seasons 3-4 (and 5 apparently) do advance things along quicker than what could truly happen in real time, and they also ditched that bit of opening dialogue from Kiefer. So they basically try to advance things at the speed of plot without getting TOO crazy.
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Anyone notice how this season has started suspiciously like the last one? A two-night, 4 hour, Season Premier which has a major event contained in it....which by the end of the 4 hours turns out to be a distraction for things to come.
The whole reason behind the hostage thing seems rather pointless if they had other things to do. I guess just trying to reel in new viewers, but they could have followed a different mold than Seaosn 4. :/
Anyone notice how this season has started suspiciously like the last one? A two-night, 4 hour, Season Premier which has a major event contained in it....which by the end of the 4 hours turns out to be a distraction for things to come.
The whole reason behind the hostage thing seems rather pointless if they had other things to do. I guess just trying to reel in new viewers, but they could have followed a different mold than Seaosn 4. :/
Jonny_Fever
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I need to rewatch last night's episode, but when Jack was captured in the terminal I could have sworn they put handcuffs on him. Then later on he cuts whatever he is bound with on a piece of metal. Or maybe Im just mistaken. Either way I already like this season more than last. And I agree that CTU and the Adminstration always have people who are "enemies" and new screening methods need to be developed..
I need to rewatch last night's episode, but when Jack was captured in the terminal I could have sworn they put handcuffs on him. Then later on he cuts whatever he is bound with on a piece of metal. Or maybe Im just mistaken. Either way I already like this season more than last. And I agree that CTU and the Adminstration always have people who are "enemies" and new screening methods need to be developed..
Sinclair
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First off I assume everyone else noticed Robert Russler aka Warren Keffer in this episode, as the man that tried to kill Jack?
As soon as Cummings said he had someone on the inside at CTU I immediately thought of Spenser, although I do believe he thought he was doing what the president wanted. I wonder what Cummings' angle on all this is? What's he going to get out of it? Other than that not much happened except they found out the terrorists were using nerve gas and Jack had his reunion with Audrey.
First off I assume everyone else noticed Robert Russler aka Warren Keffer in this episode, as the man that tried to kill Jack?
As soon as Cummings said he had someone on the inside at CTU I immediately thought of Spenser, although I do believe he thought he was doing what the president wanted. I wonder what Cummings' angle on all this is? What's he going to get out of it? Other than that not much happened except they found out the terrorists were using nerve gas and Jack had his reunion with Audrey.
Kribu
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As for the first four hours being just a distraction... yeah, but at least it was still directly connected to what is happening next. I just kind of doubt that Cummings shares the aims of the terrorists, i.e. freedom for their unnamed republic from Russia .. just really can't think what his deal is.
And Logan's still an idiot. So that hasn't changed from the last season.
I thought he looked familiar but just couldn't place him.
As for the first four hours being just a distraction... yeah, but at least it was still directly connected to what is happening next. I just kind of doubt that Cummings shares the aims of the terrorists, i.e. freedom for their unnamed republic from Russia .. just really can't think what his deal is.
And Logan's still an idiot. So that hasn't changed from the last season.
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See, I don't buy that. If the thing in the terminal was supposed to be just a distraction...then why the hell did they have the guy who was faking being a hostage there? He could have been digging his shit up while the other guys were raising hell. It was just done for no other reason than to get Bauer there to see the card swap, which was pointless. But in reality the whole thing really didnt HAVE to happen.
Well, other than to have a situation for 4 hours to reel in new viewers I guess.
See, I don't buy that. If the thing in the terminal was supposed to be just a distraction...then why the hell did they have the guy who was faking being a hostage there? He could have been digging his shit up while the other guys were raising hell. It was just done for no other reason than to get Bauer there to see the card swap, which was pointless. But in reality the whole thing really didnt HAVE to happen.
Well, other than to have a situation for 4 hours to reel in new viewers I guess.
B5_Obsessed
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I agree. The guy also did a Marwan in escaping the secured perimeter, which Jack also did when Chloe drove out of the parking garage. I don't like the convenience of a person escaping just because it's off camera.
I agree. The guy also did a Marwan in escaping the secured perimeter, which Jack also did when Chloe drove out of the parking garage. I don't like the convenience of a person escaping just because it's off camera.
Sinclair
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I thought tonight's episode was pretty good. It was nice to see Pearce finally do something. I think that along with Jack, Palmer and Tony, he's the only character to appear in every season.
They exposed Cummings pretty quickly, and I'm surprised Logan went along with what he was saying. He's too concerned about his legacy as President. Of course we all knew the nerve gas wasn't going to be found.
I thought tonight's episode was pretty good. It was nice to see Pearce finally do something. I think that along with Jack, Palmer and Tony, he's the only character to appear in every season.
They exposed Cummings pretty quickly, and I'm surprised Logan went along with what he was saying. He's too concerned about his legacy as President. Of course we all knew the nerve gas wasn't going to be found.
GKarsEye
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Well I gotta say they really got me in this episode. If last year came off to me as if it were written by Karl Rove and Jack Abramoff to get off on war-on-terror porn, this one is written by Gore Vidal and Michael Moore to expose neo-con conspiracists. Blowing up nerve gas over a "central Asian" country to demonstrate the existence of "weapons of mass destruction" to justify invasion for oil and security- beautiful. Not only is the motivation a page out of Progress For A New American Century, but the plan itself is hilariously retarded.
But it's not the president's fault- he was provided bad intelligence.
Well I gotta say they really got me in this episode. If last year came off to me as if it were written by Karl Rove and Jack Abramoff to get off on war-on-terror porn, this one is written by Gore Vidal and Michael Moore to expose neo-con conspiracists. Blowing up nerve gas over a "central Asian" country to demonstrate the existence of "weapons of mass destruction" to justify invasion for oil and security- beautiful. Not only is the motivation a page out of Progress For A New American Century, but the plan itself is hilariously retarded.
But it's not the president's fault- he was provided bad intelligence.
Kribu
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Just how can *anyone* be as stupid, weak and incompetent as Logan is? :|
I'm almost hoping that at some point we'll get to see some positive qualities he has ... I mean, he has to have some, doesn't he? (Although yes, I believe that is not going to happen, simply because he's a bumbling idiot.)
I liked this episode, although I should have seen the big "nerve gas gone, oops" revelation in the end coming a bit earlier than I did. Blaming it on the headache I've had all evening.
Just how can *anyone* be as stupid, weak and incompetent as Logan is? :|
I'm almost hoping that at some point we'll get to see some positive qualities he has ... I mean, he has to have some, doesn't he? (Although yes, I believe that is not going to happen, simply because he's a bumbling idiot.)
I liked this episode, although I should have seen the big "nerve gas gone, oops" revelation in the end coming a bit earlier than I did.
Blaming it on the headache I've had all evening.