AFI's 100 movie quotes

[hypatia]

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Good question, KoshN

How do you know it's not your kind of movie if you've never seen any of the Dirty Harry movies? Are you basing your conclusion upon a general dislike of the genre? For example, I personally dislike musicals so I wouldn't be caught dead viewing a musical. Something like that?

What I should say is I saw maybe about 20 minutes of one of the Dirty Harry movies and did not like it. I do not consider it my moral duty to keep a movie on my t.v. playing if I don't like what I see, so I changed the station and never found myself wanting to see any of the movies again. Sorry, I shall clarify more in the future.

I didn't realize it was a series, not a movie. So I'm not even sure which one I saw 20 minutes of. Thanks, PR, for clarifying that for me.

 

[hypatia]

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Well those quotes certainly demonstrates why they're not hypatia's type of movies. The films are militant, vengeful crime-fighting porn. If a cop like Dirty Harry were real we'd call for his head. Hence the films' popularity- they allow us to indulge in that dark fantasy of not bothering with rights and laws, like Jack Bauer on 24. Fun to watch for some of us (myself included) but there's certainly a reason as to why they're definitely "guys' movies."

Like science fiction is supposedly for nerdy 12-year-old boys?

No, I shouldn't have implied I'd never seen any of the Dirty Harry movies. I forget to explain that me with cable means I can see some bits of things and just turn away. To my recollection I've rarely trashed a tv or movie project without ever having seen even a preview for it.

I have trashed some movies based on trailers, though.

Part of the joy of calbe t.v. (or satellite) is getting to see, say, 10 minutes of "Dawn of the Dead" so you CAN say "wow, that was just not my cup of tea".

 

[Sindatur]

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Hey, whoa, you're treadin' on holy ground with the Zombie bashin' now Hyp

 

[hypatia]

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Hey, whoa, you're treadin' on holy ground with the Zombie bashin' now Hyp

That one sentence gave me more visuals than I think I can handle.

I'll have nightmares about treading bashed zombies on holy ground tonight, thanks to you.

 

[Recoil]

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Damn but its nice to see KoshN back to his old "Post-as-long-as-your-arm-that-wil- take-you-an-hour-to-read" form.

 

[A_M_Swallow]

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Hey, whoa, you're treadin' on holy ground with the Zombie bashin' now Hyp

That one sentence gave me more visuals than I think I can handle.

I'll have nightmares about treading bashed zombies on holy ground tonight, thanks to you.

Worse to come. This is very sacred ground. Pat Tallman was doing the zombie bashing.

See "Night of the Living Dead"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...vd&n=507846

 

[Sindatur]

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And, if Pat hadn't been doing that Zombie bashin'. JMS may never have fallen in love with her "telepath eyes" that led him to create the character Lyta specifically for Pat Tallman.

He made a statement something to the effect of, once he saw her in that, he had to have her (For B5, that is), because she had telepath eyes.

 

[KoshN]

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Good question, KoshN

How do you know it's not your kind of movie if you've never seen any of the Dirty Harry movies? Are you basing your conclusion upon a general dislike of the genre? For example, I personally dislike musicals so I wouldn't be caught dead viewing a musical. Something like that?

What I should say is I saw maybe about 20 minutes of one of the Dirty Harry movies and did not like it. I do not consider it my moral duty to keep a movie on my t.v. playing if I don't like what I see,

Well, nobody said it was, i.e. that you had to watch the whole movie.

...so I changed the station and never found myself wanting to see any of the movies again. Sorry, I shall clarify more in the future.

I didn't realize it was a series, not a movie. So I'm not even sure which one I saw 20 minutes of. Thanks, PR, for clarifying that for me.

It's not a series, just the original movie and four sequels. And you might want to consider watching the last one. The first one was the most violent (e.g. what he does to Scorpio in the football stadium), and the latter ones, especially the last two seemed to tone it down a bit, and have more comedy and sarcastic devil lines to his bosses. Come on, be honest here. How many of us haven't wanted to say to our bosses at one time or another "You're a legend in your own mind?" It's escapism, that's all. We see him get results. Sure, he cuts corners here and there, but he gets the bad guys/gals, and saves the good guys/gals (when he can). It's not like he's some sociopathic monster who goes out and has no laws that he obeys. As he said in Magnum Force to the bad cops who wanted to recruit him, "I'm afraid you've misjudged me."

 

[PillowRock]

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What I should say is I saw maybe about 20 minutes of one of the Dirty Harry movies and did not like it. I do not consider it my moral duty to keep a movie on my t.v. playing if I don't like what I see, so I changed the station and never found myself wanting to see any of the movies again.

That's understandable ... and pretty fair. However, ....

Llike a lot of movies, a random sample of "maybe about 20 minutes" (which if that happens to be rounded up and included commercials might actually be closer to 10 minutes) of a Dirty Harry movie can give wildly different impressions depending on which piece of it you see. A trailer probably would give you a more reliable impression of the movie.

Catch the wrong 10 or 15 minutes of The Enforcer (the one with Tyne Daly, before Cagney & Lacey), and you could get stuck seeing nothing but the star of the movie bashing the idea of promoting women to detective ahead of men who had been beat cops for years. Naturally, that's the setup for Callahan coming to rely on his new female partner. (Of course, in its time [mid 1970's] this was a topical theme; and Harry's initial attitude was hardly rare, especially in those kinds of "macho", dangerous professions.) She even survives until pretty close to the end of the movie, at least relative to most Harry Callahan partners that we ever meet in the movies. The life expectancy of people assigned to be his partner is *really* short.

 

[KoshN]

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You made some really good points.

The life expectancy of people assigned to be his partner is *really* short.

As was said by many characters in Magnum Force, to Det. Early.

His partner in "Dirty Harry" survived, and went on to be a teacher. His partner in "The Dead Pool" also survived. I don't think he had a partner in "Sudden Impact."

 

[hypatia]

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I'm so glad you both confirmed for me that I will find nothing I want to see in these movies.

Sorry, they are just my style. I'm not asking people to protest them, I just will change the channel when they are on. No harm done, and no I won't buy the "you have to see more than 10 minutes or so..."

I'm not under a moral obligation to watch something that looks like crap to me. Unless I'm entertaining someone who wants to watch it.

 

[Jade Jaguar]

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I saw the first Dirty Harry movie and hated it. I usually don't like movies that portray our cop 'heros' as being as brutal, violent, obsessive, and evil, as the worst of those they confront. Even if it might sometimes be true.

Actually, Bronco Billy was the first Eastwood film I liked. He has made a number of good ones since then. I consider The Eiger Sanction and The Gauntlet to be two of the worst films of all time.

 

[hypatia]

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Oh, Clint was positively great in "Two Mules for Sister Sarah". He really plays comedy quite well, you know.

I have nothing against Clint. I saw him in Bridges of Madison County, but didn't think much of that movie. His performance was fine, though.

I want to see "Space Cowboys" that looks like it could be quite fun.

 

[Jade Jaguar]

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Two Mules For Sister Sarah is the favorite film of a good friend of mine. I didn't hate it, but didn't think much of it either. I think The Unforgiven is probably his best film. In The Line Of Fire, and Bloodwork are pretty good too. Space Cowboys... well, not so much.

I just noticed on the IMDb that a new Dirty Harry film has been announced for 2006.

 

[GKarsEye]

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Unforgiven is brilliant.

But no discussion of Clint can pass without the films that made him a star- the "spaghetti" Westerns with Sergeo Lioni.

- A Fistful of Dollars, sheer brilliance in style
- For a Few Dollars More, pretty much the same and therefore lacking in originality
- The Good the Bad and the Ugly, a personal favorite (like top 5), where the style is put in a more epic context. Of course it's Eli Wallach that steals the show here.

 

[KoshN]

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I just noticed on the IMDb that a new Dirty Harry film has been announced for 2006.

VG is a Video Game, not a film.

 

[PillowRock]

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Sorry, they are just my style. I'm not asking people to protest them, I just will change the channel when they are on. No harm done, and no I won't buy the "you have to see more than 10 minutes or so..."

Cool.

Sorry if I was unclear. I didn't mean that you have to see more than 10 minutes or so. In many places in the movies it doesn't even take that long to get a feel for them (they aren't exactly deep, complex epics). I was just pointing out that some 10 or 15 stretches aren't at all representative.

Basically, the Dirty Harry movies indulge the same swift frontier justice at the point of a strong law man's gun that is common in a lot of old westerns. It just transplants it into the "gritty, moder, urban drama" setting. They're John Wayne movies with a post-modern cynical edge. As JJ pointed out, there are definitely going to be people who just aren't going to want to see that.

 

[PillowRock]

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Make it 7 of the 400 nominees that come from Casablanca

I realized last night that their nominees (and the couple other lines that I had mentioned) also did not include:

If you don't get on that plane you'll reget it. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow. But soon and for the rest of your life.

 

[hypatia]

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Yea, PR, I know plenty of movies you can't get a real feel for in 10 or 20 minutes. But I would say most of the time you can tell if you have no interest whatsoever in something.

If I want to see a Western I'll hunt up and rent "The Magnificent Seven".

Odd, I've actually seen "The Seven Samuri" more than I've seen the American (version? rip-off? homage?).

 

[KoshN]

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If I want to see a Western I'll hunt up and rent "The Magnificent Seven".

For something more recent try:

Pale Rider
Silverado
Tombstone
and
Crossfire Trail.