• The new B5TV.COM is here. We've replaced our 16 year old software with flashy new XenForo install. Registration is open again. Password resets will work again. More info here.

An Obsessed Review - possible SPOILERS

Hello all! I’ve been extremely unavailable lately but I wouldn’t be Obsessed if I didn’t manage to get in here and drop off a review.

Babylon 5: The Legend of the Rangers, To live and Die in Starlight

I’m sure that by now a lot of similar points may have been made, but I’m gonna go through my laundry list anyhow. I’ll break it up into area both dramatic and technical and count off my likes and dislikes.

Here goes.

CHARACTERS:

For the most part, I like the characters even though there simply was not enough room for them all to be showcased. If it goes to series, I’m sure JMS will fix this problem.

David Martell - Dylan Neal is excellent. I was able to quickly overlook his meticulously chiseled features (bastard!) and focus on his acting. Very natural. Very confident and at ease with the role. Quite an interesting vocal quality as well. His standout scenes were the expository scene with G’Kar and the interrogation with Minister Kafta.

Dulan – Alex Zahara was also very good. He looked to me like Lennier’s big brother. Very similar in humor and headbone design. He speaks softly but most assuredly carries a big pike. However, unlike Lennier, I think Dulann is one of the few B5 characters who may actually be at peace with himself. He’s not carrying some tortured secret at the moment. Some critics have complained that he didn’t have much to do in this movie once he was injured, but that’s all a point of perspective isn’t it? If he moved the story forward, he had something to do. He serves to open the mystery of the Liandra’s former crew.

Sarah Cantrell – Myriam is good and has great chemistry with Dylan. And yes, I hated the screech as well. She seemed to have been momentarily caught in an episode of Dragonball Z. I understand where the screech came from but it doesn’t make it any more pleasant to watch from the couch. >:cool:

Kitaro Sasaki – Man, I’m disappointed. I expected a little more screen time from Kit but he was more or less restricted to the role of Lt.Uhura in this outing. I heard of a scene where David had to fight Kit to get him to join his crew, but it either got edited or I was hallucinating. Warren also seemed a little shy or nervous in the delivering of his lines. Am I off base?

Malcolm Bridges – Speaking of nervous, Dean was unexpected. I was figuring Malcolm for this macho type but instead his character was very human, particularly when being caught by G’Kar invoking his image.

Firell, Na’feel, Tafeek, and Tirk – I like ‘em all. Hope we get to see them do something next time.

G’Kar – was, well, G’Kar. He was great. He was strong, he was sarcastic, he was refreshing. He was certainly not useless.

STORY:

Okay, so the story reminds us of the Shadow War and Thirdspace. That’s okay. I’ll watch it anyway. As previously mentioned, this story does not come across with the scope and grandeur of The Gathering. It is a “smaller” film with less lofty aspirations.

Or is it?

Like The Gathering, this movie has already let us know what some of the questions may be: What happened to the last crew of the Liandra? Who was the traitor? And what are The Hand and how will they be stopped? Once again the fate of the universe is in danger from a God-like enemy - hardly a small problem.

As for the writing, I hear JMS was rushed because of the impending strike. Okay. But why in Hell did we have to hear “We line for the One, we die for The One” so many times, even where it had no business being said. A wise man once said….?? What the hell was that about? I know JMS doesn’t go for focus groups and viewer opinions but most of the things that I disliked about the film are universally disliked about it by all fans, so there is credence to floating it past a test audience. We’re talking about editing 6 or 8 lines - a change of 30 seconds at most. I think it would’ve been nice to have an introductory explanation of the gunnery pod before they dropped Sarah into it. Even my wife, who has slept though more Babylon 5 than some of us have watched asked me how they could have a system like that when we’ve never seen one before. So then it was MY job to explain it, rather than JMS’s. And I was making it all up! I was very relived to hear that the enemy ships were not The Hand. I said the word “cool” out loud when I heard that. This apparently was a point even Glen Oliver missed. All in all, more was good about the story than bad. And have you EVER seen the good guys strap a hostage to 50 grenades? Damn, I love JMS’s sense of justice. I had been thinking the same thing myself and then decided, “No, they wouldn’t!”

TECHNICAL MINUTAE:

Bitch session.

I was not a big fan of the effects. I love Babylon 5’s effects but I found the FX in Rangers, although technically proficient, to lack the excitement of the good old days of Mojo Leibowitz. There almost no continuity with regard to ship designs, Minbar exteriors, jumpgates, Babylon 5, etc. When they jumped though the Epsilon jumpgate…..where was the Epsilon jumpgate? Furthermore, where was Epsilon 3? I have nothing against the effects being improved with time and new technologies, but JMS should stand up and make sure his product has a cohesive fit in the universe he has created. Anyone who thinks these effects were the greatest should go back and watch “In the Beginning” and “Thirdspace”.

Set Design - The bridge of the Liandra was unique and different. I don’t think it looked cheap at all. The bridge of the Emfalli, however, looked horrendously like a Star Trek set considering it was supposed to be a Minbari-designed ship. I was glad when the teaser sequence was over. It was pretty ugly.

Final complaint. Design aesthetic. Minbar was supposed to be based on feudal Japan but the Ranger training facility WAS Japan. I mean, c’mon! Let’s try and make it look like an alien planet, not a trip to Beninhana’s.

May sound like I’m complaining a lot, but nope! I liked the movie. I want more. These points I bring up are minor in the scheme of things. Good work to all involved, good luck for the future. Let’s see them ratings!

Final Grade: B+














------------------
"Draal gave Zathras list of things not to say.
This was one. No.... *tsk tsk*
No. Not good.
Not supposed to mention... "one", or... THE one.
Hmmmm.
You never heard that."
 
Great review! (I really am dying to see this movie here in UK!!).
As for the effects, don't you think the Foundation Imaging effects (seasons 1-3) were much better than the Netter ones who took over and also did the films?
Netter's battle sequences were always wildly confusing and the depth/camera movements all seemed wrong.


------------------
'I plan to live forever, or die trying' - Villa Blake's 7
 
B5_Obssessed,

Hey there! Great review! Honest and truthful and very respectful! That's great dude!

Regarding the character of "Kitaro" delivering the lines shyly or nervously...well, that is interesting that you picked up on that...

The scene with "Kit" being asked about "Communications are off-line, we got short range ship to ship...but that's it...blah, blah, blah..." was intended to be delivered shaken up (slightly) due to what had just taken place with the "Valen" being destroyed and "Beta-Durani 7" blown to smithereens!

One of the takes of my close-up watching "Beta-Durani 7" being blown up...I almost starting crying...I had tears in my eyes...so, the lines were attached to that emotion...wrong choice? I have no idea...I was reacting in the moment...and I was very shaken...

Yes, "Kit" is a Ranger...but this is his first official mission...and what a mission it was! I don't care how much training one has...when it comes to real life, one cannot be in perfect composure on a "first experience" basis...if you know what I mean...

People can only speculate on how they are going to act/behave...but when a dramatic situation really happens, chances are that person will react totally different to what was expected of them or how they THOUGHT, they would react and behave! Does that make any sense!?

"Kit" is a specialist, yes...but, he is also very human, young and inexperienced to an extent with the situations involving so much destruction and lives being taken away in such a short period of time! The destruction of the "Valen", most of the crew-members on board (excluding the diplomats), and "Beta-Durani-7" is alot to take in within a matter of seconds!

So, that is how I chose to play "Kit" in "To Live and Die in Starlight", but I can tell you now, he won't be the same guy in the series because of what he has gone through on that mission! Who would!?

Thanks for the comments! I appreciate it greatly! Cheers to you!

-Warren T.Takeuchi- "Kit"

laugh.gif
laugh.gif
laugh.gif
laugh.gif


------------------
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by orac:
As for the effects, don't you think the Foundation Imaging effects (seasons 1-3) were much better than the Netter ones who took over and also did the films?
Netter's battle sequences were always wildly confusing and the depth/camera movements all seemed wrong.


<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i certanly would agree with that, although netter digital did some really good work with thirdspace... but season 3 of B5 was the best CG of all the episodes

------------------
### Hi, I'm a sig virus. Please add me to the end of your signature so I can take over the world.### - caught from Saps @ B5MG
 
You know, Warren?
I get it now!

Of course, you'd be nervous reporting information to Sarah, etc. You were a relative outsider in that group and in WAY over your head.



------------------
"Draal gave Zathras list of things not to say.
This was one. No.... *tsk tsk*
No. Not good.
Not supposed to mention... "one", or... THE one.
Hmmmm.
You never heard that."
 
Oh, and I thought Netter Digital did a great job on the effects, until "A Call to Arms". Those FX were very murky and confusing.

But Endgame? Awesome!

------------------
"Draal gave Zathras list of things not to say.
This was one. No.... *tsk tsk*
No. Not good.
Not supposed to mention... "one", or... THE one.
Hmmmm.
You never heard that."
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR> That -was- Kit getting belted by Tannier, wasn't it? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And belted good!
laugh.gif


------------------
"Draal gave Zathras list of things not to say.
This was one. No.... *tsk tsk*
No. Not good.
Not supposed to mention... "one", or... THE one.
Hmmmm.
You never heard that."
 
Yes! Quite right indeed!

Kitaro is a guy that jumps into situations with so much eagerness, that he sometimes doesn't realize what he is getting into!

Mike Vejar gave me the same input on his take of "Kit" which was interesting. We were on the same page so to speak!

A good example of "Kits" over-eagerness and enthusiasm is the scene with the Captain...where David asks "Kit" about flying inside the tail of the comet...

"It will be bumpy...exploding gas jets, melting ice, chunks of rock being knocked off by steam venting...(pause) but yeah, I can do it"...

I guess "Kit" didn't realize what he was getting into when he signed up to become a "Ranger"...he he he

Cheers! -Warren-
laugh.gif
laugh.gif


*If you ask me...the guy (Kit) smiles to much...he was getting on my nerves actually!

------------------
 
Yep, women are gonna come up to you and pinch your cheek.

------------------
"Draal gave Zathras list of things not to say.
This was one. No.... *tsk tsk*
No. Not good.
Not supposed to mention... "one", or... THE one.
Hmmmm.
You never heard that."
 
Believe me...Kitaro won't be getting his ass kicked (referring to the scene with Tannier) like that anymore! Geez!

Cheers! -W-
mad.gif
mad.gif
lol.gif


------------------
 
Not to give away any spoilers but...

The character of "Kitaro" will definitely have more of an edge to him in the series!

Like I said, after what he has gone through on this recent mission...he will be a hell of alot more confident, well-rounded, and ready for whatever may come! You damn right he will be!

He "Lives for the one, he dies for the one"

Cheers! -Warren-
laugh.gif


PS-The pinching on the cheeks would be fine with him...Kit can definitely handle that!

------------------
 
LOL, stick me in a new and stressful situation, and I'll smile up a storm... a very human reaction.

I will also say, "Sure, I'll write you a twenty-page proposal," when I know full well that I can only handle ten at the moment!

See, this is what I said about the script - clunky and flawed, yet full of brillant innuendoes and moments. I remarked in another thread that I think this is the first show I've *ever* seen where I've disliked the script, but enjoyed the entire show, and started to be a cheerleader for its potential not just because it bears the name B5, but because it really HAS the chutzpah to really achieve televisory greatness.

Even though I did wince a couple times
wink.gif


We'd all, I think, like to see more of Kit.

------------------
channe@[url="http://cryoterrace.tripod.com"]cryoterrace[/url] | "I wonder," said Frodo, "but I don't know. And that's the way of a real tale."
 
Aiie! Not that line, not that line! *hides behind a tree*

Just kidding...

I want to hear "we are born of the stars / we live in starlight / we die in starlight" again. So simple, but poetic as hell.

Warren, two of my friends said they want to marry you...

While I have both of you here and posting (That hasn't happened since October, heh heh) I was wondering if I could ask you for your permission to use the characters you created for Titans in a story that's going to actually get published.

------------------
channe@[url="http://cryoterrace.tripod.com"]cryoterrace[/url] | "I wonder," said Frodo, "but I don't know. And that's the way of a real tale."
 
So Warren? Any late night calls from SciFi to tell us about?

------------------
"Draal gave Zathras list of things not to say.
This was one. No.... *tsk tsk*
No. Not good.
Not supposed to mention... "one", or... THE one.
Hmmmm.
You never heard that."
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR> While I have both of you here and posting (That hasn't happened since October, heh heh) I was wondering if I could ask you for your permission to use the characters you created for Titans in a story that's going to actually get published. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

*Phones lawyer and agent*

Can you tell us about it? I suppose it's okay with me although I hate relinquishing the story - schedule or no.
frown.gif


------------------
"Draal gave Zathras list of things not to say.
This was one. No.... *tsk tsk*
No. Not good.
Not supposed to mention... "one", or... THE one.
Hmmmm.
You never heard that."
 
I actually didn't wince at you, Warren.

More specifically, I winced at:

Sarah: "A wise man once said, We live for the One, we die for the One, but another wise man said: It ain't over 'til it's over."

Um, what else?

Sarah's minefield scream, even though I know that if I were in the same situation, I'd be screaming like that too.

The seventh time someone said "We live for the One, we die for the One"

There were two more noticeable moments, but I'd have to rewind the tape, and the tape is currently in my co-worker's VCR about ten miles away from here.

*grins*

Dylan should *never* have told me to be honest...
wink.gif


------------------
channe@[url="http://cryoterrace.tripod.com"]cryoterrace[/url] | "I wonder," said Frodo, "but I don't know. And that's the way of a real tale."
 
Channe,

Of course you have my permission to use the characters from "Titans -Warriors of Virtue"...although, you created alot of them too...

Sorry that I was unable to post any more contributions to the story, but I had gotten busy with things at that time!

B5_Obssessed!

Shame on you! (Slaps hands)...just kidding!

No comment! he he he...

Cheers! -Warren-
laugh.gif


PS-Channe...I would love to get a copy of that publication when it comes out with the characters from "Titan"! That is awesome! I am excited!

I was debating whether to compile all the material that we and everyone created and write something...(thinking, thinking...)

------------------
 
If you feel that you'd be relinquishing the story, by NO MEANS am I going to use those characters. At all. If so, forget I even mentioned it, and I'll write in different people.

I have your e-mail - I'll write you.

The story's about the Battle of Trevayne, an Ari/James backstory. For no reason would I ever, ever, EVER take what we've written together and call it my own. Even if they told me it was going to get published in Asimov's.
smile.gif


------------------
channe@[url="http://cryoterrace.tripod.com"]cryoterrace[/url] | "I wonder," said Frodo, "but I don't know. And that's the way of a real tale."
 

Latest posts

Members online

Back
Top