KoshN
Super Moderator
B5:LotR TLaDiS - Some Observations, Questions, etc. (CONTAINS SPOILERS)
Same as what I posted at rastb5m:
The Enfali is in a firefight with some raider fighters. Since when have
raiders ever been able to do serious damage to a Minbari vessel, and why are
no Nials around? Since when do raider fighters have aft guns? Well, we
really don't know a lot about the context of the firefight that might
explain why no other ships were with the Enfali, or why we saw no Sharlins
in the entire movie, or why we only saw Nials and Whitestars at Minbar, and
possibly at B5. This has me wondering what type of ship the Enfali is, and
when it was built.
Tannier? The same Tannier from Learning Curve? I'd have double checked the
actors name but every airing of TLaDiS had scrunched credits (ARGH!).
I think hyperspace looked better in Lightwave. Also, the new jumppoints
seem to persist much longer than usual, before collapsing.
What happened to the bodies of the immediately previous crew of the Liandra?
Who attacked them, when were they attacked, and who betrayed them?
In Dulann's vision (when he was in the hallway of the Liandra, checking
systems before they took off), he saw Minister Kafka, the right side of his
face already beaten up. This hadn't happened yet. Kafka was on the Valen
at the time. It appears Dulann is a prophet, in addition to being a teep.
This couldn't be a vision the ghosts were sending him, unless another of
Kafka's race had been similarly beaten up. However, the ghost said he
didn't see the face of his betrayer.
Liandra is 20 years old in 2264, so it was built in 2244, before the
Earth-Minbari war. It's a small vessel and yet it *has* jump engines.
Seems odd, since Sheridan thought it was a big deal when he found out that
the Whitestar, another small vessel, had jump engines (2260).
What's the deal with engine glow? The Valen's engines glow, and the
Liandra's do not. Sharlins and Nials engines don't glow, but Whitestars and
those of the Victory class do. Is there any plan to this? You'd think that
all Minbari gravitic propulsion systems would not glow, just like a
Sharlin's don't glow.
The Valen has weapons, so why were they never fired? Maybe they were fired
but we never saw them fired.
Why enter the tail of the comet? Why not just put the comet between you and
the enemy ship. You don't have to be *in* the tail.
How is it possible to lose people for any amount of time at all on that
small of a ship?
The Valen was hit 13 times with the green energy bolts from the enemy ships.
At that point, status was "Engines hit, rear decks on fire." Then it was
hit 4 more times with the green energy bolts. Status was then "Weapons
gone. Engines, full burn." Then it was hit 13 more times with the green
energy bolts. Then, the Ram occurred (Thank the Great Maker, "Ramming Speed"
was not uttered.). Evidently the Valen was really good at taking damage,
and not so good at dishing it out.
The Liandra intercepted one green energy bolt meant for the Valen. Why
didn't it *try* to intercept the large, white energy bolt that the enemy
fired at the planet?
The Liandra, a 20 year old ship, hit the enemy ships, several times with her
fireballs (why no traditional Minbari green slicer beams?) blowing pieces
off the enemy ships. These were ships of the great enemy (admittedly toys,
given by "The Hand" to races who cooperated with them), a race that would
make the Shadows appear like insects. I can't see the Liandra making any
headway against a Shadow Battlecrab. "Seems" inconsistent.
The Liandra is hit by one green energy bolt, and suffers significant damage
(Dulann is very seriously injured.). Then, it's hit by one pinkish-white
energy bolt (definitely never was green), two mines, and 2 or 3 more
pinkish-white energy bolts. I've got to wonder what's the difference
between the green and the pinkish-white energy bolts.
Minister Kafka's race appears to be to The Hand, what the Drakh were to the
Shadows.
All in all, I liked the movie. It just felt a bit like it was not the B5
universe, a bit foreign, because of the lack of familiar Minbari ships
(except in extreme distant shots, in background only), lack of traditional
Minbari ship weaponry (green slicer beam, which even Nials had as far back
as 2248), the weird look of hyperspace (mostly hyperspace itself, but also
the jumppoints), and the weird space backdrop at B5. What's happened
between 2262 and 2264, that got back to normal for 2267? Yes, I know.
"Maya." *Please go back to Lightwave.* B5 and Crusade looked better.
While I thought all of the actors did a great job, it looks like Alex Zahara
has been playing Dulann all his life. Man, this guy is just incredible!
The chemistry between David and Dulann is right there, from the very
beginning. I'm reminded of G'Kar and Londo, and Londo and Garibaldi. There
was only one time a line made me wince, and that was when Sarah said "And
another wise man said, It ain't over 'till it's over." It wasn't the line,
but rather the delivery. Then there was Sarah's expressions and long
utterance when she was going nuts destroying the mines. That was a bit
much. Seemed over the top. Not her motions when destroying the mines, but
rather the expressions and the utterance. It was a strange thing. I was
smiling broadly at what she accomplished, but at the same time thinking
"That was over the top." Ahh, maybe it's just me. When things start to get
that hot & heavy, I tend to go the other way and get icy and silent.
JMS, regarding G'Kar's mention of Lyta (not by name), G'Kar's "conversation"
with Sheridan (not shown), and G'Kar asking David if he was going to visit
the station, YOU ARE SUCH A TEASE!
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KoshN
-------------
Vorlon Empire
"To Live and Die in Starlight"
pilot movie for "Babylon 5 - The Legend of the Rangers"
January 19, 2002 at 9PM & 11PM EST, January 20, 2002 at 5PM on The Sci-Fi Channel (US).
http://www.scifi.com/b5rangers/
Same as what I posted at rastb5m:
The Enfali is in a firefight with some raider fighters. Since when have
raiders ever been able to do serious damage to a Minbari vessel, and why are
no Nials around? Since when do raider fighters have aft guns? Well, we
really don't know a lot about the context of the firefight that might
explain why no other ships were with the Enfali, or why we saw no Sharlins
in the entire movie, or why we only saw Nials and Whitestars at Minbar, and
possibly at B5. This has me wondering what type of ship the Enfali is, and
when it was built.
Tannier? The same Tannier from Learning Curve? I'd have double checked the
actors name but every airing of TLaDiS had scrunched credits (ARGH!).
I think hyperspace looked better in Lightwave. Also, the new jumppoints
seem to persist much longer than usual, before collapsing.
What happened to the bodies of the immediately previous crew of the Liandra?
Who attacked them, when were they attacked, and who betrayed them?
In Dulann's vision (when he was in the hallway of the Liandra, checking
systems before they took off), he saw Minister Kafka, the right side of his
face already beaten up. This hadn't happened yet. Kafka was on the Valen
at the time. It appears Dulann is a prophet, in addition to being a teep.
This couldn't be a vision the ghosts were sending him, unless another of
Kafka's race had been similarly beaten up. However, the ghost said he
didn't see the face of his betrayer.
Liandra is 20 years old in 2264, so it was built in 2244, before the
Earth-Minbari war. It's a small vessel and yet it *has* jump engines.
Seems odd, since Sheridan thought it was a big deal when he found out that
the Whitestar, another small vessel, had jump engines (2260).
What's the deal with engine glow? The Valen's engines glow, and the
Liandra's do not. Sharlins and Nials engines don't glow, but Whitestars and
those of the Victory class do. Is there any plan to this? You'd think that
all Minbari gravitic propulsion systems would not glow, just like a
Sharlin's don't glow.
The Valen has weapons, so why were they never fired? Maybe they were fired
but we never saw them fired.
Why enter the tail of the comet? Why not just put the comet between you and
the enemy ship. You don't have to be *in* the tail.
How is it possible to lose people for any amount of time at all on that
small of a ship?
The Valen was hit 13 times with the green energy bolts from the enemy ships.
At that point, status was "Engines hit, rear decks on fire." Then it was
hit 4 more times with the green energy bolts. Status was then "Weapons
gone. Engines, full burn." Then it was hit 13 more times with the green
energy bolts. Then, the Ram occurred (Thank the Great Maker, "Ramming Speed"
was not uttered.). Evidently the Valen was really good at taking damage,
and not so good at dishing it out.
The Liandra intercepted one green energy bolt meant for the Valen. Why
didn't it *try* to intercept the large, white energy bolt that the enemy
fired at the planet?
The Liandra, a 20 year old ship, hit the enemy ships, several times with her
fireballs (why no traditional Minbari green slicer beams?) blowing pieces
off the enemy ships. These were ships of the great enemy (admittedly toys,
given by "The Hand" to races who cooperated with them), a race that would
make the Shadows appear like insects. I can't see the Liandra making any
headway against a Shadow Battlecrab. "Seems" inconsistent.
The Liandra is hit by one green energy bolt, and suffers significant damage
(Dulann is very seriously injured.). Then, it's hit by one pinkish-white
energy bolt (definitely never was green), two mines, and 2 or 3 more
pinkish-white energy bolts. I've got to wonder what's the difference
between the green and the pinkish-white energy bolts.
Minister Kafka's race appears to be to The Hand, what the Drakh were to the
Shadows.
All in all, I liked the movie. It just felt a bit like it was not the B5
universe, a bit foreign, because of the lack of familiar Minbari ships
(except in extreme distant shots, in background only), lack of traditional
Minbari ship weaponry (green slicer beam, which even Nials had as far back
as 2248), the weird look of hyperspace (mostly hyperspace itself, but also
the jumppoints), and the weird space backdrop at B5. What's happened
between 2262 and 2264, that got back to normal for 2267? Yes, I know.
"Maya." *Please go back to Lightwave.* B5 and Crusade looked better.
While I thought all of the actors did a great job, it looks like Alex Zahara
has been playing Dulann all his life. Man, this guy is just incredible!
The chemistry between David and Dulann is right there, from the very
beginning. I'm reminded of G'Kar and Londo, and Londo and Garibaldi. There
was only one time a line made me wince, and that was when Sarah said "And
another wise man said, It ain't over 'till it's over." It wasn't the line,
but rather the delivery. Then there was Sarah's expressions and long
utterance when she was going nuts destroying the mines. That was a bit
much. Seemed over the top. Not her motions when destroying the mines, but
rather the expressions and the utterance. It was a strange thing. I was
smiling broadly at what she accomplished, but at the same time thinking
"That was over the top." Ahh, maybe it's just me. When things start to get
that hot & heavy, I tend to go the other way and get icy and silent.
JMS, regarding G'Kar's mention of Lyta (not by name), G'Kar's "conversation"
with Sheridan (not shown), and G'Kar asking David if he was going to visit
the station, YOU ARE SUCH A TEASE!
------------------
KoshN
-------------
Vorlon Empire
"To Live and Die in Starlight"
pilot movie for "Babylon 5 - The Legend of the Rangers"
January 19, 2002 at 9PM & 11PM EST, January 20, 2002 at 5PM on The Sci-Fi Channel (US).
http://www.scifi.com/b5rangers/
