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"Brit"- comment from JMS

Re: Racist comment from jms

He's trolling. And we, in another discussion medium, are still feeding him.

Don't feed the trolls!
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Indeed :)

Let's say JMS made a racist comment: Who cares? It's not like he is a saint or something. He is just a guy, if he didn't slip now he could slip anytime. Nobody is perfect. Jeesh.

P.S: English people suck.
 
Re: Racist comment from jms

He's trolling. And we, in another discussion medium, are still feeding him.

Don't feed the trolls!
Click to expand...

Indeed :)

Let's say JMS made a racist comment: Who cares? It's not like he is a saint or something. He is just a guy, if he didn't slip now he could slip anytime. Nobody is perfect. Jeesh.

P.S: English people suck.
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Interesting that the person you quoted (darth_librarian) is English. ...a bit excessive, don't you think?
 
Re: Racist comment from jms

mmm... I don't know Darth Librarian, or if he's English. It's wasnt meant to be a jab or anything. I'm just trying to say that all the time people say things, and they let it go. It's hipocrisy to get the high ground with JMS now.
 
Re: Racist comment from jms

mmm... I don't know Darth Librarian, or if he's English. It's wasnt meant to be a jab or anything. I'm just trying to say that all the time people say things, and they let it go. It's hipocrisy to get the high ground with JMS now.
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The location address beside the quoted text said London UK so Darth Librarian was known to be English. This was just a second person joining the trolling.
 
Re: Racist comment from jms

This is an example of "be careful what you say...you may accidentally offend people you don't mean to."
 
Re: Racist comment from jms

JMS has hired a British lawyer to sue Paul for libel.

I recommend that we close this conversation.
 
Re: Racist comment from jms

I'm not trying to keep this alive, but when/where did you here this?
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JMS posted it on rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated

Re: from jms: too damned much stuff
jmsatb5@aol.com
04:29 21 May 2005
>>
>
>>> > A poor choice of words? With all due respect to JMS, I'd have to

say

>>> > yes. But JMS a racist? No bloody way.
>
>>
>> Probably best not to use racist terms then, huh?
>>
>> Paul.


Okay, Paul. Enough.

You have been running your mouth saying that I made a "racist" comment,
that I am using "racist" terms. That, therefore, I *am* a racist.

Perhaps you missed the meeting, but I am a Caucasian. Britain is still
considered for the most part, at least, an Anglo-Saxon nation.
Caucasian. We're members of the same freaking race.

Racism by EVERY DEFINITION that you care to apply, especially from the
dictionary, refers to different RACES. If there are no different races
involved, it's not racism. Argue all you want, words mean what they
mean, not what we WANT them to mean.

There may be cultural differences, but that's not a race.

So your terminology is offensive, insulting, wrong, libelous,
potentially damaging to my career and reputation, and defamatory...and
be advised that there are laws in England about such things. And from
this point on, I am copying my attorney on all our correspondence,
because you are actively attempting to attack my reputation and defame
me as a racist, and I do not take that lightly. If you think for just
a *second* that I will nok\t prosecute you if you continue in this way,
you're definitely wrong.

Second...you have said now that I used "racist terms." You have said
it now repeatedly.

After discussing the British class system, which has been documented in
more studies than I have time to cite, I said, in jest, simply that
you're not making sense "even for a Brit."

That's all. And for that you are attempting to defame me and my
reputation with false accusations.

I have been posting over the last 10 years under my name. Every post
I've written since 1994 has been archived. You can google all of them.

You find ONE SINGLE post from me where I say anything using racist
terms, just one...and I will not only resign permanently from this
group, I will resign from the internat itself Permanently.

If you cannot...then you do the same.

I'm telling you straight up, Paul: put up or shut up.

You have published damaging, defamatory, libelous comments about me now
at some length here, using inflammatory terms like racism because I
said that YOU were not making sense "even for a Brit." That is the
SOLE basis of your accusation...and it's a lie. It's a filthy lie, and
it's legally and factually untrue. And there have already been several
successful prosecutions against those who engage in a reckless
disregard for the truth when libeling someone on the internet.

So either you produce an actual racist comment...or apologize for
running my name through the gutter...or resign...or prepare to defend
yourself in court. And I hope you have the cash on hand to defend what
is a completely indefensible position, because you're going to have to.

I mean it. I have already retained an attorney in London.

So the choice is yours.

But this horseshit ends right now.

jms

copyright (c) 2005
synthetic worlds, ltd.
permission to reprint
denied to sfx magazine
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Re: \"Brit\"- comment from JMS

I see that JMS agrees with me on the definition of "race".

But since JMS was called a racist first, by the traditional rules of race-baiting, he is a racist and "Paul" is immune from being called a racist. Ah, well. :rolleyes:

By the way, could the mods engage in some revisionism and re-name this thread to "Brit"- comment from JMS or some such? I don't want "racist comment" to be in the topic list. It's misleading in my opinion.
 
Re: Racist comment from jms

He's trolling. And we, in another discussion medium, are still feeding him.

Don't feed the trolls!
Click to expand...

Indeed :)

Let's say JMS made a racist comment: Who cares? It's not like he is a saint or something. He is just a guy, if he didn't slip now he could slip anytime. Nobody is perfect. Jeesh.

P.S: English people suck.
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Interesting that the person you quoted (darth_librarian) is English. ...a bit excessive, don't you think?
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Nope, we suck, and here's the evidence!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4571989.stm

:LOL: But the sympathy is appreciated. I get Fa's point completely, off the cuff things are sometimes said and tkane the wrong way.

The legal move was a bit harsh, were I JMS I would let go, but I guess this guy would not shut up, and he has a preofesional rep to consider... Anyway, i guess we should let his slide...
 
Re: \"Brit\"- comment from JMS

That was kind of what I thought when I heard about this. They are ending happy hour, so in effect putting prices up and gaining more profits and they get praised for this! :confused:
 
Re: \"Brit\"- comment from JMS

Isn't the making more profit assuming the same people will show up and drink whether or not there is a happy hour?

Especially considering the anger that has been voiced here, it seems to me they might lose money over this.
 
Re: \"Brit\"- comment from JMS

Piling on Sin taxes do not reduce sales. I don't see any reason to believe that no longer lowering prices for Happy Hour will cut into profits, especially since you need to sell less, since the profit margin is higher. Additionally, most happy hours also have an investment of a snack food buffet (Chicken wings, cheeses, lunch meats, etc) by the establishment, as well.
 
Re: \"Brit\"- comment from JMS

This all depends on how Happy Hour works. Do more people drink because prices are lower, in which case they will lose those drinkers; or do the drinkers choose the pubs that have a Happy Hour over those that do not. By acting as a cartel they all up their prices up at the same time so the drinkers will simply have to choose on other grounds.
 
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