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Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: SPOILERS
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Sindatur
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Yup, that's what JKR responded. griphook was wrong it was truly Godric's sword, the sword, like a wand had sworn allegiance to Gryffindor, so any "true Gryffindor" could grab it when it was really needed.
Her answer from the Today show
How did Neville get the Sword of Gryffindor?
In “Deathly Hallows,” Griphook the goblin claims that Godric Gryffindor stole his sword from the goblins and Griphook, in turn, steals the sword from Harry, Ron and Hermione in Gringotts. So how does Neville pull the sword from the Sorting Hat during the Battle of Hogwarts?
“Now we can reveal that Griphook was wrong,” Rowling said. The sword was truly Gryffindor’s and he didn’t steal it … Its first allegiance always was to a worthy Gryffindor, and it was going to come back when someone really, really needed it. And it came back to Neville.”
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Elenopa
Regular
<sarcastic> And she couldn't find two lines in the six hundred odd pages to tell us that? </sarcastic>
crazyhorse
Anarchist
You should of worked it out 
Sindatur
Regular
I assumed it on my own before reading her reply, and wondered why it needed to be clarified (although several people are confused by it, so I guess it apprently did need to be). I mean seriously, did you assume when Harry pulled it out that Dumbledore had physically placed it in their?
Elenopa
Regular
You did notice I was being sarcastic?
Anyway, the sword being pulled out of the hat was in book 2, which I read a very long time ago. I am not a HP geek like I am a B5 and Arthur Ransome geek, so I don't remember everything in minute detail. I wasn't going to go back and look in the other book when something could have been mentioned in this book. A sentence during the feast afterwards would have been an ideal place. I would have had Harry musing that he was glad Neville was a true Gryffindor, or something like that.
Sindatur
Regular
You did notice I was being sarcastic?
Anyway, the sword being pulled out of the hat was in book 2, which I read a very long time ago. I am not a HP geek like I am a B5 and Arthur Ransome geek, so I don't remember everything in minute detail. I wasn't going to go back and look in the other book when something could have been mentioned in this book. A sentence during the feast afterwards would have been an ideal place. I would have had Harry musing that he was glad Neville was a true Gryffindor, or something like that.
HEHE, yea, I noticed you were being sarcastic.
See, it's your own fault, you should be remembering every single detail, you should be reading each book several times a year
(Actually, though, I would figure with the movie, that would indeed be something that would stick out ) (I'm an HP geek who's read most of the books at least 3 times, and seen the movies repeatedly)
Sindatur
Regular
Oh, anyone who still has questions that weren't answered in the book, the Webchat transcript here at Leaky Cauldron contains most of the answers you may be looking for
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2007/7/30/j-k-rowling-web-chat-transcript
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2007/7/30/j-k-rowling-web-chat-transcript
A_Ranger
Regular
She did write an explanation in Deathly Hallows, early in the book in the chapter about Dumbledore's will.
Elenopa
Regular
OK, on page 109. Still a long way from Neville getting the sword on page 587. I still think it needed clarification.
hypatia
Regular
The big HP fans reread the entire series before reading the last book. Try that, and you'll answer many of your own questions.
What you're doing is like trying to watch B5 in pieces, separated by years. As you begin to forget the background, the story's richness and fullness will get lost.
Personally, I let the fanatics fill me in on such details, and I nod and think "yea, I vaguely remember that in the book..."
The hard-core fans really know the details of the characters and the story inside and out.
What you're doing is like trying to watch B5 in pieces, separated by years. As you begin to forget the background, the story's richness and fullness will get lost.
Personally, I let the fanatics fill me in on such details, and I nod and think "yea, I vaguely remember that in the book..."
The hard-core fans really know the details of the characters and the story inside and out.
hypatia
Regular
Fanfics make it worse: they aren't well thought out, based on fandom, not knowledge of where the author was actually going with these characters, etc. etc. No, I don't think you should reread it all. Just understand: she explained a lot more than you realize, you just didn't make the connection, it's o.k.
Babylon 5 had the same problem. Keep up on the story, carefully, or you will get lost. I understand the movie "Pirates III" is much the same. More reason to rewatch my DVDs of the first two, just in time to watch the third when it comes out on DVD (next Christmas, maybe, or so?).
Or I ask the real fanatical fans who have memorized more of the small details.
Babylon 5 had the same problem. Keep up on the story, carefully, or you will get lost. I understand the movie "Pirates III" is much the same. More reason to rewatch my DVDs of the first two, just in time to watch the third when it comes out on DVD (next Christmas, maybe, or so?).
Or I ask the real fanatical fans who have memorized more of the small details.
A_Ranger
Regular
What is G & S?
You didn't have to be immersed in HP fandom to figure it out. With how long the books already are taking even more time out to say, "for those of you who don't remember the climax of book two or weren't paying attention while reading earlier let me spell out what's happening for you" would turn reading them into some kind of infinite loop. The books used to have awkward recaps of the previous books in the first chapter or so but eventually the flow of the story became more important than the few people who jump into a series in the middle without bothering to find out what happened before.
If you want an easy answer to how Neville got the sword out of the hat: Magic.
It also seemed self explanatory from the easy atmosphere in the epilogue and the lack of a rallying point in Voldemort that the Death Eaters weren't the same threat anymore. While who ended up doing what job and how the remaining DE's/Umbridges were dealt with than how many kids everyone had the story Rowling was telling was the coming of age of Harry Potter. Given that goal the epilogue made sense. Of course I say that as someone who thought it was possible that all the Horcruxes but Harry would be destroyed, Voldemort killed and returned to Vapormort, and Harry finally falling on his sword so to speak. Obviously all of us let our desires and theories cloud what's actually there in the books but now it seems that it should have been obvious what was going to happen in a general sense.
Who died and how also seems obvious if you look at how they affect/relate to Harry.
Just like how I can't judge the movies until the second viewing allows me to get past the changes from the book a second reading will probably make it easier to enjoy what's there instead of how it's different from what we had in our heads.
If you want an easy answer to how Neville got the sword out of the hat: Magic.
It also seemed self explanatory from the easy atmosphere in the epilogue and the lack of a rallying point in Voldemort that the Death Eaters weren't the same threat anymore. While who ended up doing what job and how the remaining DE's/Umbridges were dealt with than how many kids everyone had the story Rowling was telling was the coming of age of Harry Potter. Given that goal the epilogue made sense. Of course I say that as someone who thought it was possible that all the Horcruxes but Harry would be destroyed, Voldemort killed and returned to Vapormort, and Harry finally falling on his sword so to speak. Obviously all of us let our desires and theories cloud what's actually there in the books but now it seems that it should have been obvious what was going to happen in a general sense.
Who died and how also seems obvious if you look at how they affect/relate to Harry.
Just like how I can't judge the movies until the second viewing allows me to get past the changes from the book a second reading will probably make it easier to enjoy what's there instead of how it's different from what we had in our heads.
