Well Kribu, actually, no. I joined PayPal to pay for a SVHS VCR at an online store that accepts PayPal. They would not accept payment from me through PayPal, since I would not provide PayPal with a credit card number, so PayPal would not fully accredit me, and therefore insure the vendor that I was on the up and up. To become fully accreddited WITHOUT a credit card number, I would have had to wait 6 months, and somehow make an unspecified number or amount of purchases WITHOUT being fully accredited, until PayPal would certify me. I cancelled my membership, kept the 42 cents they transfered to my checking account, and sent the vendor a certified check for the VCR, which they shipped upon arrival of the check. Getting answers to my questions to PayPal was very difficult, since they seem to use computers to read and reasond to the questions, not people, and most of the responses I got were not germaine. I had to do extensive digging on their website to get what little info I could about alternate means of certifcation, but never could get complete info. If you don't want to give them a credit card number, forget it. It took me an additional two weeks fooling around with them, transfering them money, and transfering it back, before I could get the VCR> /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif