Joseph DeMartino
Moderator
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>(There is) No final judge of what is good or bad.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Actually, a lot of believe that there is, but that He doesn't trouble himself over such minor matters as TV movies.
(Although I suspect that He hates rap.)
RE: The Flemings and reposting Dylan's message.
I agree that it is inappropriate, and e-mailed Tim to say as much. However, Dylan did post it in a public forum which is as likely to be read by representatives from Sci-Fi or Warner Bros. as any other. (More likely, given the reputation it is developing.) So this isn't like reposting someone's private e-mail.
Dylan didn't request that he never be quoted, only that any quotation from or reference to his post make it clear that he was not the original source of any of the numbers. (Since he was discussing things already posted on other website discovered by fans.) The mere fact that Dylan added this caveat: "Make it clear that I did not reveal any ratings numbers" would seem to indicate that he anticipated that his remarks would, in fact, be quoted by sombody.
Tim qouted Dylan's entire message including this disclaimer. So his action wasn't quite as outrageous as it may seem at first blush. There is a bit of netiquette that says you shouldn't quote a message posted to one forum on any others.
JMS has given folks a blanket exemption from this rule because it allows his stuff to be posted on fora that host fan fiction and allow story ideas - places he can't go himself. It also means that he only has to answer questions once, in one location (the moderated newsgroup), and still be sure that most fans will be able to find the information.
My messages sometimes get quoted elsewhere, and I have publicly said that I don't have a problem with this, although it is always nice when people (like Londo's Hair) either ask permission or ask me to repost something myself. But Dylan hasn't given such blanket permission for the re-use of his posts, as far as I know, so I do think
Tim was mistaken, in my view, to put the information on his site, in terms of strict netiquette. But I also think it was an honest mistake, and mitigated by his posting the entire message, rather than excerpts that might have led people to think that Dylan had posted the actual ratings numbers. So the thing Dylan most wanted to avoid has not happened.
Regards,
Joe
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Joseph DeMartino
Sigh Corps
Pat Tallman Division
joseph-demartino@att.net
Actually, a lot of believe that there is, but that He doesn't trouble himself over such minor matters as TV movies.
RE: The Flemings and reposting Dylan's message.
I agree that it is inappropriate, and e-mailed Tim to say as much. However, Dylan did post it in a public forum which is as likely to be read by representatives from Sci-Fi or Warner Bros. as any other. (More likely, given the reputation it is developing.) So this isn't like reposting someone's private e-mail.
Dylan didn't request that he never be quoted, only that any quotation from or reference to his post make it clear that he was not the original source of any of the numbers. (Since he was discussing things already posted on other website discovered by fans.) The mere fact that Dylan added this caveat: "Make it clear that I did not reveal any ratings numbers" would seem to indicate that he anticipated that his remarks would, in fact, be quoted by sombody.
Tim qouted Dylan's entire message including this disclaimer. So his action wasn't quite as outrageous as it may seem at first blush. There is a bit of netiquette that says you shouldn't quote a message posted to one forum on any others.
JMS has given folks a blanket exemption from this rule because it allows his stuff to be posted on fora that host fan fiction and allow story ideas - places he can't go himself. It also means that he only has to answer questions once, in one location (the moderated newsgroup), and still be sure that most fans will be able to find the information.
My messages sometimes get quoted elsewhere, and I have publicly said that I don't have a problem with this, although it is always nice when people (like Londo's Hair) either ask permission or ask me to repost something myself. But Dylan hasn't given such blanket permission for the re-use of his posts, as far as I know, so I do think
Tim was mistaken, in my view, to put the information on his site, in terms of strict netiquette. But I also think it was an honest mistake, and mitigated by his posting the entire message, rather than excerpts that might have led people to think that Dylan had posted the actual ratings numbers. So the thing Dylan most wanted to avoid has not happened.
Regards,
Joe
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Joseph DeMartino
Sigh Corps
Pat Tallman Division
joseph-demartino@att.net