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Per JMS - Ides of May?

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Just found this on the Moderated Newsgroup....sigh.

Subject: quick note
From: jmsatb5@aol.com (Jms at B5)
Date: 3/19/04 9:01 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <20040319030723.06530.00001783@mb-m25.aol.com>

The trade paperback containing the first six issues of Supreme Power hit the
stands this past week, for those who want to jump on.

Oh...and starting around the Ides of May, look to the wrong side of the river
for word from Harry, Jack and Albert.

Not that I'm enjoying this, of course....
jms

(jmsatb5@aol.com)
(all message content (c) 2004 by synthetic worlds, ltd.,
permission to reprint specifically denied to SFX Magazine
and don't send me story ideas)
 
Oh...and starting around the Ides of May, look to the wrong side of the river
for word from Harry, Jack and Albert.
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Harry, Jack and Albert are Warner Bros but i have no idea what 'wrong side of river' means (maybe he meant 'wrong side of sea' and thats europe - remember Winchester Films UK rumour 2-3 months ago).
 
Oh...and starting around the Ides of May, look to the wrong side of the river
for word from Harry, Jack and Albert.


Err what ????Useless and utterly Typical just what I have come to expect from a vorlon.
 
fill me in on the winchester films rumour.....
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quote from DarkHorizons (dec2003) :
Babylon 5: The 'big thing' JMS was hinting at the other week may in fact be a movie - a UK source indicates that Winchester Films is rumoured to be in talks with the show's creator about doing a movie which would be shot late next year.
 
Oh...and starting around the Ides of May, look to the wrong side of the river
for word from Harry, Jack and Albert.


Err what ????Useless and utterly Typical just what I have come to expect from a vorlon.
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Useless? No. Typical? Yes.

This is what reads on firstones.com's frontpage, so that info wasn't useless my dear friend:

From: Firstones

Whether or not the "Harry, Jack and Albert" reference is related to the upcoming B5 project is unknown.

Based on the clue, it seems (to me) as though there's going to be an announcement from the UK (London's South Bank is often known as the wrong side of the river) from Warner Brothers (Jack, Harry and Albert Warner founded WB) around May 15th
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So no... that wasnt's useless, you just have to know some things on the larger scale. My dear, good friend.
 
Jack, Harry and Albert are (or were) indeed the Warner Bros.

JMS knows the difference between "sea", "ocean" (sometimes rendered as "The Pond" when writing of the Atlantic) and "the river". He isn't talking about any ocean. (And what makes you Europeans so sure that he'd have the Atlantic in mind if he had? :) If he'd said "the wrong side of the ocean" he could as well have meant the Pacific and Asia. :D)

There are two possibilities on the "river" -

1) He's making a reference to the "Los Angeles river", once a natural stream, now mostly a long band of concrete filled storm drains of the type seeen in Terminator 2. Maybe Burbank, where Warner Bros. is located, is on the "wrong side of the river" from Los Angeles, Hollywood proper or some other point. (The term would then be the rough equivalent of "the wrong side of the tracks".) I don't know that much about the geography of Tinsel Town, having only spent six days out there in my life.

2) He's making reference to the Hudson river, in New York. Many easterners think that the Hudson represents the westernmost edge of civilization in America. (Some New Englanders argue for the Connecticut river, which would put New York itself on the "wrong side." :)) JMS is originally from the northeast, and I doubt all those years in Hollywood have changed his mind about the obvious and inherent superiority of his native region. :) There's a famous cover from The New Yorker magazine, "A New Yorker's View of the World" that most of you have probably seen and which perfectly captures this (completely rational) attitude. :D

I have a feeling JMS was talking about the Hudson. ;)

Regards,

Joe
 
So now its May 15th or so we will hear something? Or was that date just assumed by someone above?
 
The reason Europeans, especially anyone who's been to London, think it has to do with them is that Taxi drivers in london are notorious for refusing to go south of the river.. hence, for a Londoner anyway, 'Sorry guv, wrong side of the river' is a commonly heard expression.

There is a flaw in the logic as listed in the post copied from the Firstones site though..

Neither Winchester Films offices, nor Warner Bros UK's offices are south of the river.
 
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Oh...and starting around the Ides of May, look to the wrong side of the river
for word from Harry, Jack and Albert.

Err what ????Useless and utterly Typical just what I have come to expect from a vorlon.


Useless? No. Typical? Yes.

This is what reads on firstones.com's frontpage, so that info wasn't useless my dear friend


It was USELESS to me cause it didn't actually tell us anything my dear friend.
 
It was USELESS to me cause it didn't actually tell us anything my dear friend.
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Actually, it told us at least three things: 1) The project hasn't been cancelled, which is always a possibility at any stage short of a TV debut or theatrical release. 2) That we shouldn't expect any news until on or after about the 15th of May, and therefore should just chill out for the next month and a half. 3) That Warner Bros. (rather than a TV network, game company, etc.) is going to make whatever announcement he is talking about.

:)

Regards,

Joe
 
As always Joe D is correc on all logical points .but I never believe anything until I actually can buy it .Which in this case is a movie ticket to theather to see B5 the movie. ;)
 
I have a feeling JMS was talking about the Hudson. ;)
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Joe-
Just out of curiosity, does that alter in any way your assessment of what the new project might *be*? That is, is there any particular type of new project (feature film vs. TV movie vs. miniseries vs. whatever) for which it might make sense to have an announcement from WB from "the wrong side of the [Hudson] river"?

For that matter, does the fact that the announcement will apparently be from WB suggest that this project might be more likely to be a feature film than a TV project?
 
Just an idea - ides of May being the 15th or so and maybe the river being the hudson, could it be this?

From the Futon Critic.com;

Every May in New York City the seven broadcast networks hold their annual upfront presentations. It's during these sessions said networks (ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, PAX, UPN and the WB) reveal their fall schedules to the advertising community. As you might guess this is when the offical, signed, sealed and mailed decisions about the fates of most series are decided (if they haven't been already).

The term "upfront" comes from the fact that the overwhelming majority of the advertising for the 2004-05 season will be sold during this period, months before the season even starts.

Here's the complete list of presentation dates. Actual times will be announced closer to May.

Monday, May 17

NBC Upfront Sales Presentation - Metropolitan Opera House

Tuesday, May 18

ABC Upfront Sales Presentation - New Amsterdam Theater

The WB Upfront Sales Presentation - Sheraton Towers Imperial Ballroom

Wednesday, May 19

CBS Upfront Sales Presentation - Carnegie Hall

Thursday, May 20

FOX Upfront Sales Presentation - City Center Theatre

PAX Upfront Sales Presentation - Beacon Theatre

UPN Upfront Sales Presentation - Madison Square Garden

Big week for television announcements, and JMS hints that the WB will be making one around that time. Speculation but interesting nonetheless...
 
I think it's interesting to note that there may be more than one reference to Shakespear in JMS' message. Ides of May being obvious, but it's been pointed out that one historical use of the phrase 'wrong side of the river' was regarding the south end of London where the Globe Theater just happened to be located. Could mean that it's a stage play? Or could it be a reference to Winchester Films who were mentioned in a rumor a few months ago. I think their location is north of the Thames, though

Of course, my sister also points out that the 'wrong side of the river' has also been used in reference to New York's East river. Anybody know if there's a branch of WB in NY but outside of Manhattan?

May seems so far away...

Jan
 
Does anyone know which side of the River Thames Pinewood film studio is? I can not work it out from my map.

Also which side of the river is SW1P - the postal area of UK Channel 4?

Either or both could be involved in a film.
 
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