Oh, I loved Armageddon, just BECAUSE it was so dreadfully stupid. I had seen it and Deep Impact (a friend of mine had invited a bunch of people to the cinema on his birthday for Deep Impact, Armageddon a different friend had on VHS) .. whereas Deep Impact was truely painful to sit through, Armageddon was on SUCH a level of head-up-ass science and storywriting that I just couldn't stop enjoying how bloody ridicilous it all was .. even it I was 14 when that movie came out. I only stopped enjoying it towards the end of the movie, when it started taking itself seriousley - Bruce Willis' changing places with Ben Affleck, draaaaama, drama drama drama, more drama, .. yech.
Bad science back and forth, the one plot element that REALLY put this movie in the so bad it's good category for me was how a bunch of smaller asteroids approach earth before the big one comes .. or something like that. The first one, after smashing a space Shuttle in orbit (what are the odds?) crashes right down on Manhattan (what are the odds?). The second one smashes Paris(what are the odds?). The third one smashes Shanghai(what are the odds?). Remind me never to play darts against god
I doubt the guy writing that review got no fun out of the movie, considering he must have watched it a few times to compose that review.
You Europeans and your lack of appreciation for Hollywood blockbuster action flicks...Oh, I loved Armageddon, just BECAUSE it was so dreadfully stupid. I had seen it and Deep Impact (a friend of mine had invited a bunch of people to the cinema on his birthday for Deep Impact, Armageddon a different friend had on VHS) .. whereas Deep Impact was truely painful to sit through, Armageddon was on SUCH a level of head-up-ass science and storywriting that I just couldn't stop enjoying how bloody ridicilous it all was .. even it I was 14 when that movie came out. I only stopped enjoying it towards the end of the movie, when it started taking itself seriousley - Bruce Willis' changing places with Ben Affleck, draaaaama, drama drama drama, more drama, .. yech.
Bad science back and forth, the one plot element that REALLY put this movie in the so bad it's good category for me was how a bunch of smaller asteroids approach earth before the big one comes .. or something like that. The first one, after smashing a space Shuttle in orbit (what are the odds?) crashes right down on Manhattan (what are the odds?). The second one smashes Paris(what are the odds?). The third one smashes Shanghai(what are the odds?). Remind me never to play darts against god
You Europeans and your lack of appreciation for Hollywood blockbuster action flicks...
.. perfect counter-example: Braveheart. Like I said, I truely enjoyed Armageddon. .. but I do love laughing at ridicilous things on Star Trek too occasionally. I guess different people enjoy things in different ways ... .. it all depends on where you put the microphones - who says they are in outer space? .. and IIRC, it was somewhere stated that the "scream" the shadowships leave were of telepathic nature, not of acoustic nature .. )
I'm sorry, but that doesn't track either.
When making first contact with an alien species, talking only terms of references to your own mythology / history is an *obvious* non-starter. If you can communicate any other way, then you obviously choose that other way. Even if that doesn't occur to you at first, then when you initially run into a wall of non-comprehension you would immediately fall back to that other form.
If they aren't bright enough to figure that out, then they also should never have reached orbit ...... much less interstellar space travel.
Edit: This was in reply to hyp's "separate language" comment. Unfortunately GKE's unrelated reply got posted in between.
And yea, it's just a rumor. But no one has denied it yet, have they?
Yeah, I can understand that. As I said, I really *do* like the way the character interaction plays in there.I just love the episode so much, I want there to be a way around this inconvenient little fact.
) ...... that was my original point. I don't mean to try to debate anybody who loves Darmok (and I know there are many who do) into rejecting it.As I said, I don't mean to try to get people to reject the ep because of my particular quirky inability to suspend disbelief in this specific case.
.. I know they do it to have non-real IP addresses, and I know that it's only a minor point really in general .. but gah! It bugs me! .. but recasting Kirk and Spock is not a crime I'm willing to forgive them for - no matter whom they cast. .. how about Ben Affleck as Spock while we're at it? Now, you see, that one doesn't bug me ..... although I know about the problem.It *really* bugs me on 24 how they constantly have IP Adresses with one number being something like 284 .. GAH! You can't get 284 into 8 bits!
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