The most important question in all of B5...

[Quagmire]

The Vree are the classic grey aliens only seen in person during a season one episode. A human was suing them because his grandfather(or some other predecessor, I don't recall) had been kidnapped and most likely probed.

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[hypatia]

Too much work, and too little time to watch B5. I thought the same race implanted someone else with whatever (wasn't it Londo)?

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[Recoil]

Ahhh I remember that episode and those aliens. So how do we know its them in those ships? Those ships are seen all the time, but those aliens only in that one ep.

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[joev5638]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hypatia:
Too much work, and too little time to watch B5. I thought the same race implanted someone else with whatever (wasn't it Londo)?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hypatia,

To me, that race looked like the Streib, who were allies of the Shadows (technomage Trilogy). They were also the race who kidnapped Sheridan in a season 2 episode.

We're talking two different races. The Vree flew the flying saucers; the Streib did the examination on Londo.

Of all the weaponry that looked cool in the B5 series, the Vree's flying saucer shooting the shredding fire was the coolest, I thought. One of the few times a special effect ever made my eyes light up. Normally, I don't notice them.

Joe


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[hypatia]

Thanks, Joe. I figured after I posted that it must be 2 different races. The B5 universe is so complete, and varied, I am always confusing different races.

It MIGHT also be possible that I'm easily confused. I do teach math, and logic is a lot easier to follow than most of the rest of existence, in my humble opinion.




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"The Bible is a book: it is a good book, but is is not the only book" - Inherit the Wind

"I do not believe that the same God who
has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."—Galileo

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[A_Ranger]

From JMS


<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR> There's no relation between the aliens working for the shadows
and the Streib. The ones you saw in the flash were "doctors" of a sort
doing the work; there was no abduction required except of course the
covert kidnapping from the Psi Corps Re-education Center. As for
Bester's look behind, he was just looking to the guards behind him, and
the ones in front of him. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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[Recoil]

Where was it stated that those flying saucer ships were indeed the 'Vree'? Just curious to see where I missed that

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[Ivanova]

I missed that too. I thought they were with the Vorlons, because I remember seeing those ships in the stockpile pocket that Ivanova and Marcus found while going through hyperspace when in search for the First Ones.

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[Recoil]

Ok,

I know what the Centauri, Narn, Minbari, Drazi, and Brakiri ships look like. The real question is, who the HELL pilots those little flying saucer ships that are always floating around? Do they ever really tell us?

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[Kribu]

The Vree.

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[Mondo Londo]

I always thought the most important qestion in B5 was "fasten or zip?"

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[bakana]

The Vree ships were never identified as such in any Episode.
They were IDed in a couple of the Online forums in response to question posted to JMS.
There were too many ships and races to do any sort of "this race flies That Ship" dialogue in the show.
We got acquainted with the ships of the Major races only because they fit into the stories.
The rest were just There.


<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR> We've shown the saucer-shaped ship before; it's a Vree ship, first seen in Deathwalker.
jms

I'm not sure which ones you're referring to; we've got Llorts, Hyachs, Vree, Brakiri, and others.
jms

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



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[RW7427]

I would figure that the most important B5 questions are "Who are you?" and "What do you want?"

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[bakana]

No, No!

The two most important questions remain the classics:

What's for dinner?

Your place or Mine?



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[Recoil]

Bakana,

Thanks for the info. I was pretty sure it wasnt in an ep, but that JMS posted it somewhere.

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[**DONOTDELETE**]

The question of who flew the flying saucers is indeed the Vree, who appeared in the episode "Grail", I think. They were the Great-Grandfather snatchers. The flying saucer is called the Xill Cruiser.

The reason I know this is I have a great software encyclopedia of Babylon 5 done by Sierra. It has a section of ships in the B5 universe, who they belong to, how old they are, and how powerful they are.

We did indeed see them in the episode "Deathwalker", although they looked different, they were black saucer with orange outline. Instead of Gray saucers with blue outline. Although my encyclopedia only talks about the Xill cruiser, the big saucer. From the episode "Shadow Dancing", we see that the Vree also have saucer fighters that were smaller than the cruisers.

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[jgsugden]

Further confirmation that the 'flying saucer' is a vree vehicle can be found in the Babylon 5 Collectible Card Game. According to the game, at least, the Vree ship is a wimpy little thing.

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[**DONOTDELETE**]

Further further confirmation that the saucer is Vree comes from the B5 Wars Board Game from Agents of Gaming, who've got all sorts of the little races we see for 5 minutes plotted out with ships and descriptions. For some reason, a lot of B5'ers don't take B5Wars very seriously, but JMS has a foreword in the Rules book in which he says the game stuff should be considered canon.

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[superbob]

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[snakeeyes]

I agree with those statement about the CCG and B5W game confirming the Vree saucers.

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