Re: The official X²:Mutants United (Spoiler) Thread
My only complaint remains being that of most of you not taking either the time or effort to actually read through the entire thread of mine, if all of you would have done so then there would be a lot less questions remaining floating about to be answered and a lot less similar postings!
And then there wouldn't be any need for me to quote myself from some of my previous postings above... so, go read them
, but before I get down to re-discussing those particular aspects of the movie... again ...I have a couple of more thoughts to share that's generated from the following variety of different postings.
Originally posted by
Malakian82:
Funny thing is, I heard nobody commenting about Jubilee (in the 'prisoner pit' with the other children). Storm even calls out her name.
Wolverine
In the last movie, he seemed to be on a leash. As if Singer was afraid that Wolverine would not be likeble if he used his claws too much (which is probably right). But in this movie, he slices and dices and I like it,...
Sentinals
I want 'em! The next movie should have them, but due to Xavier's speech to the president - and the introduction of the Phoenix story, we'll probably won't get 'em. A pity.
(1)
Jubilee was actually present in a lot more scenes than just that one you were referring to,
Malakian, but I am sure that you had noticed this and you only used that particular scene as reference since that was the most prominent
Jubilee moment one of them all. And not only did
Storm call out to
Jubilee,
Jubilee was the one that answered back.
(2)I would have to disagree with you on your thought that you think that
Singer kept the
Wolverine character on a leash during
X-Men, since one has to keep in mind once again that we are talking here about a trilogy story at the very least and as with most or all of these types one needs an introduction to such a big franchise that holds over 40 years of history and continuity. Yes, people complaint about
X-Men having been too slow and too dull and too boring, but it was noting more than an introduction to this world of mutants so that with the first movie one could attract both your loyal fan and your general movie-goer while giving them both a new-found respect. But mostly it meant that with the sequel one could jump straight into the slicing and dicing action without having to worry about any explanations.
(3)I believe that there might still be a chance for the fans to see some big ass robots running around town. Yes, in the end it does all depend on what
Singer has had in mind all this time and which actors will remain loyal to their respective characters and contracts, but
Singer's main concern has always been to provide for the fans something that they'll all respect. Most people yawned on when they heard that
X2 would essentially be a continuation of
Wolverine's struggle, but it turned out that that wasn't the only story arch and therefore we were all surprised by a tale wherein
Xavier became the bad guy and
Magneto the good guy for a while as within the comics, and a story that related quite heavily to a novel, "
God Loves, Man Kills"!
Originally posted by
Glacophane:
I saw a few cameos..I caught the Beast/Hank McCoy on the tv. Jubiliee in the pit and also Remy/Gambit by name only on the computer monitor when Mystique is breaking into the facility.
Can someone help me with this...didn't Senator Kelly eventually help to create Genosha?
(1)The 'computer monitor' -scene would be one of a great many reasons why I would want the DVD... right now!
If you have got a fast eye and you plan to see
X2 again, watch out for this particular scene earlier on in the movie where
Mystique breaks and enters into
Stryker's security facility (in New York I guess) in her attempt to plan an escape route for
Magneto. While
Mystique is busy on the computer she calls forth a mutant fact sheet document including a couple of names. During those mere 2 seconds you should led your eyes slide along the list, not only can you spot a name like
Remy LeBeau (
Gambit) but also others like
Sam Guthrie (
Cannonball) for example.
(2)I am guessing that you actually had the
Sentinels in mind when you referred to
Genosha since
Genosha is really nothing more than an island located somewhere in the Indian Ocean.
Sentinels, whom the first of were designed to track and capture mutants, were created by noted anthropologist
Bolivar Trask. There are obvious links and also very confusing links, so it all depends what you had in mind.
Originally posted by
Sinclair:
I thought the whole raid on the mansion was spectacular, with Colossus and Siren. The Hank McCoy/Beast cameo was nice, as was seeing Remy/Gambit's name on that computer screen.
I would have to say that
Colossus was either a favorite of one of the writers, but more likely would be that
Singer and
Hayter and
Penn all quite possibly wanted to keep even tighter continuity towards, "
God Loves, Man Kills" than what we could understand as well as then having this particular character in the movie franchise for any quite likely sequel. I would have to admit that either way I could have done with more
Colossus , but this character would not have worked in this chapter of the story, not yet anyways. Now that he has been introduced it is quite another story.
Siren having been introduced as one of the innocent bystanding school kids worked quite well too, along with
Colossus having carried her down the mansion passage way. And then we also got to see some more of
Kitty Pride again, or
Shadowcat or even
Sprite if you like... though I think she went by plain
Kitty in the movie of course.
Originally posted by
AntonyF:
I feel, once again, I want to see a series of this. Of course these actors wouldn't be in it. But they're good characters.
The original cast originally signed contract for 3 movies if
X-Men were to turn out as a success, and since the movie hit the target we got to have
X2. As far as I have read, everyone is now more keen than ever except
Singer said that apparently
Halle Berry will not reprise her role as
Storm... again. I smell some 'Oscar' -fever having gone to someone's head, but she's made it to the top so I guess she can, it's not my business to tell.
I think a series would ruin the atmosphere that has been created here by
Bryan Singer, though it would be nice if and only if both the cast and crew could remain exactly the same. They all have too busy schedules in any event. I mean, they have to start working on
X3 afterall!
Originally posted by
Demon:
I think Alan Cummings did a great job of Nightcrawler, but isn't he a younger character in the comics? One of the kids rather than the teachers? Somehow he comes across older in the movie.
That is
Alan Cumming... without the '
s', don't worry though since I used to make the same mistake every time.
Kurt Wagner resembled a demon look since birth and because of that his mother,
Mystique, hurled him over a waterfall to save her own life from fearful villagers.
Kurt was discovered by a gypsy queen and raised in a traveling circus where he knew happiness and peace for a while until the circus was bought out and he had to flee.
Kurt made his way to a German village where eventually they thought him responsible for a spate of murders. The town's people were about to kill
Kurt when they were psionically paralyzed by
Professor X, who had come to recruit
Kurt for the
X-Men.
Nightcrawler now dedicates himself to a higher calling as a priest in training. As far as I know
Nightcrawler was also part of
Excalibur as well for a while, alongside
Kitty Pride and
Phoenix amongst others.
Nightcrawler teleports himself, his clothing and a certain amount of additional mass from one point to another almost instantaneously. He leaves behind smoke and the smell of burning brimstone, actually atmosphere from the unknown dimension through which he travels.
Nightcrawler's infallible spatial awareness enables him to avoid teleporting into solid matter, which could cripple or kill him. As a result, he generally teleports only to places he can see or those he knows well. Through practice,
Nightcrawler has increased the amount of mass he can teleport with him.
Nightcrawler's spine is more flexible than that of an ordinary human, allowing him to perform contortionist-like feats and spend much of his time in a semi-crouching position without damaging his posture. Due to the dark coloration of his fur, he can blend into deep shadows.
But most importantly of all
Nightcrawler goes... *
bamfs* ...as he teleports, a sound
X2 created to the bone.
