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Sorry, didn't really think that counted as a spoiler since its been discussed to death (pardon the expression) and since in the Rangers pilot itself G'Kar says mournfully of his unnamed travelling companion, "She's gone now", which is simply not the wording one would use for someone who is anything but dead. Given that we already know who G'Kar was touring the universe with, it is hardly a stretch to know who was meant. Also the fact of Lyta's death (though not the circumstances) is mentioned in the Telepath Trilogy. It may also be mentioned in passing in the Centauri Prime books. Mac will know (and cite chapter and verse if it is. :))

Regards,

Joe
 
It would have been shown in the Crusade episode 'The Path of Sorrows' if Pat Tallman had appeared as planned. It's also in the Crusade Writer's Bible along with the name of the person (not gonna spoil that one, nosirree!) who was with her.

Jan
 
Lyta's death during the Telepath War isn't exactly a spoiler because we never see it; it's a story that just hasn't been told. We only know it happens through jms's contact with fans through the internet and his having told us that way that it is during that conflict that she dies.
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Thats good to know I guess :p

It's just that I havn't seen all of B5 yet. I've nearly finished Season 4 and then I'll be watching In The Beginning and then going directly onto Season 5 and the final 2 movies. I won't be bothering with Crusade or LOTR most likely :p
 
You'll be missing some good shows if you skip Crusade. Rangers didn't get far enough to have much effect on the universe perhaps, but there's some excellent stuff in Crusade, even given the amount of interference.

Jan
 
Maybe at the right price. I guess I would always enjoy the chance to extend my custom B5 cover's since getting Crusade adds another spine.

If I see it for 39.95 AUD I'll grab it.
 
Crusade does have a different feel than B5, so you'll have to be aware of that going in, but there are some pretty good episodes -- enough that it is disappointing that TNT stomped the show into oblivion.
 
I've seen people make a pretty case that the half season of Crusade that exists is actually better than the equivalent first half of the first season of Babylon 5.

Of course, since B5 is such a major example of the whole being greater than the sum of the parts, it is also reasonable to say that such camparisons of parts is entirely beside the point.
 
A Call to Arms (probably December 2266) takes place after Legend of the Rangers (sometime in 2265.) (Crusade S1 is set in 2267.)

Among other things, the Telepath War has only recently ended (and Lyta died) at the time of the Rangers pilot. By A Call to Arms Psi-Corps has been disbanded, the new rules for telepaths are in place, telepaths have been allowed into Earthforce and wounds have healed sufficiently for a memorial to those killed on both sides to be erected.

Regards,

Joe
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<u>Ingram:</u> Thanks for the spoilers :(
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Well, in JoeD's defense, who knows what you've seen or read?

You have the following to read, and they're all very good (not perfect, but very good). Enjoy.

Title: Dark Genesis - The Birth of the Psi Corps
Author: Keyes, J. Gregory
Timeframe: 2115-2189
Isbn1: 0-345-42715-7
Copyright1: October 1998
Publisher1: DelRey

Title: Deadly Relations - Bester Ascendant
Author: Keyes, J. Gregory
Timeframe: 2189-2258
Isbn1: 0-345-42716-5
Copyright1: March 1999
Publisher1: DelRey

Title: Final Reckoning - The Fate of Bester
Author: Keyes, J. Gregory
Timeframe: 2271-2281
Isbn1: 0-345-42717-3
Copyright1: October 1999
Publisher1: DelRey
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Title: Legions of Fire - Book I - The Long Night of Centauri Prime
Author: David, Peter
Timeframe: ~10/2262-12/2266. Dates corrected to line up with A Call to Arms and Crusade.
Isbn1: 0-345-42718-1
Copyright1: December 1999
Publisher1: DelRey

Title: Legions of Fire - Book II - Armies of Light and Dark
Author: David, Peter
Timeframe: 12/14/2266-04/18/2272. Dates corrected to line up with A Call to Arms and Crusade.
Isbn1: 0-345-42719-X
Copyright1: May 2000
Publisher1: DelRey

Title: Legions of Fire - Book III - Out of the Darkness
Author: David, Peter
Timeframe: 05/14/2273-01/21/2277. Dates corrected to line up with A Call to Arms and Crusade.
Isbn1: 0-345-42720-3
Copyright1: November 2000
Publisher1: DelRey
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Title: The Passing of the Techno-Mages - Book I - Casting Shadows
Author: Cavelos, Jeanne
Timeframe: 11/2258-12/31/2258
Isbn1: 0-345-42721-1
Copyright1: March 2001
Publisher1: DelRey

Title: The Passing of the Techno-Mages - Book II - Summoning Light
Author: Cavelos, Jeanne
Timeframe: 1/2259-2/2259
Isbn1: 0-345-42722-X
Copyright1: July 2001
Publisher1: DelRey

Title: The Passing of the Techno-Mages - Book III - Invoking Darkness
Author: Cavelos, Jeanne
Timeframe: 8/2260-2261
Isbn1: 0-345-43833-7
Copyright1: December 2001
Publisher1: DelRey
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JoeD: Sorry, didn't really think that counted as a spoiler since its been discussed to death (pardon the expression) and since in the Rangers pilot itself G'Kar says mournfully of his unnamed travelling companion, "She's gone now", which is simply not the wording one would use for someone who is anything but dead. Given that we already know who G'Kar was touring the universe with, it is hardly a stretch to know who was meant. Also the fact of Lyta's death (though not the circumstances) is mentioned in the Telepath Trilogy.
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Final Reckoning - The Fate of Bester, pages 212 and 228.

JoeD: It may also be mentioned in passing in the Centauri Prime books. Mac will know (and cite chapter and verse if it is. :))
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Nope, not there. It would have been in my notes, and it isn't. Although it does contain the death of another beloved character whose name begins with the letter L (Book II, page 210).

It's just that I havn't seen all of B5 yet. I've nearly finished Season 4 .....
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So, anything from Season 5, In the Beginning, The River of Souls, A Call to Arms, Crusade, or the novels (The Shadow Within, To Dream in the City of Sorrows, or the three Del Rey trilogies I listed above) should be considered spoilers, correct?

...and then I'll be watching In The Beginning and then going directly onto Season 5 and the final 2 movies. I won't be bothering with Crusade or LOTR most likely :p
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In the case of Crusade, that's a BIG mistake. The Centauri and Technomage trilogies have a lot of ties to each other and to Crusade. It (Crusade) is a rich story that was populated by some really interesting characters (and actors), and it should have been told on the TV screen.

If I had to pick five episodes to be produced (stories or scripts written but not produced as TV episodes), they'd be:

"Genius Loci" (from the short story)
"Hidden Agendas" (from the short story)
"The Nautilus Coil"(from the short story)
Crusade: "To the Ends of the Earth"
Crusade: "End of the Line"



SHORT STORIES (all out of print, both magazines out of business):

Title: The Shadow of His Thoughts
Author: Straczynski, J. M.
Timeframe: 10/2262
Ss_pub_in: Amazing Stories
Ss_issue: Summer 1999, Number 597
Ss_commnts: The Londo Story

Title: Genius Loci
Author: Straczynski, J. M.
Timeframe: 01/2263
Ss_pub_in: Amazing Stories
Ss_issue: Winter 2000, Number 599
Ss_commnts: The Lyta / G'Kar Story

Title: Space, Time, and the Incurable Romantic
Author: Straczynski, J. M.
Timeframe: 2560-2592
Ss_pub_in: Amazing Stories
Ss_issue: Summer 2000, Number 602
Ss_commnts: The Marcus / Ivanova Story

Title: Hidden Agendas
Author: Straczynski, J. M.
Timeframe: 2262
Ss_pub_in: Babylon 5/Crusade Magazine
Ss_issue: May 2000, Number 22
Ss_commnts: The Ivanova/Warlock Destroyer/Ulkesh's Vorlon
Transport/Sheridan/Lyta Story

Title: True Seeker
Author: Avery, Fiona
Timeframe: late 2269
Ss_pub_in: Babylon 5/Crusade Magazine
Ss_issue: July 2000, Number 23
Ss_commnts: The Narn Story (carries on from episode 17 "Legacies" http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/guide/017.html )

Title: The Nautilus Coil
Author: Keyes, J. Gregory
Timeframe: 2263, or maybe even sometime in 2264
Ss_pub_in: Babylon 5/Crusade Magazine
Ss_issue: August 2000, Number 24
Ss_commnts: The Garibaldi/Lyta/Psi Corp/Vorlon story. Connects with "Dark Genesis - The Birth of the Psi Corps"
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