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Wizard Magazine's "25 Greatest Sci-Fi Shows Ever"

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I guess I should feel lucky that B5 gets a spot on the list.

Here's the link. And if you don't want to click, here's the list:

25. Dark SHADOWS
24. Smallville
23. Red Dwarf
22. The Incredible Hulk
21. Night Gallery
20. Supernatural
19. Highlander: The Series
18. Babylon 5
17. The Outer Limits
16. Quantum Leap
15. The Dead Zone
14. Angel
13. The Prisoner
12. The 4400
11. Firefly
10. V
9. Jekyll
8. The X-Files
7. Star Trek
6. Lost
5. Battlestar Galactica
4. Buffy the Vampire Slayer
3. Star Trek: The Next Generation
2. The Twilight Zone
1. Doctor Who
 
A list putting Star Trek: TNG four places over Star Trek deserves nothing but or contempt.
 
Where's Torchwood?

25. Dark SHADOWS FANTASY NOT Sci-Fi
24. Smallville Most people on rast seem to think it's gone waaaay downhill.
23. Red Dwarf
22. The Incredible Hulk
21. Night Gallery
20. Supernatural FANTASY NOT Sci-Fi
19. Highlander: The Series FANTASY NOT Sci-Fi
18. Babylon 5 Should EASILY be in the top 5.
17. The Outer Limits (original)
16. Quantum Leap
15. The Dead Zone
14. Angel FANTASY NOT Sci-Fi
13. The Prisoner
12. The 4400
11. Firefly
10. V This high up on the list??? No way!
9. Jekyll Never even heard of it.
8. The X-Files Oh gimme a break! Ahead of B5??? The last 4 seasons sucked!
7. Star Trek TNG ahead of TOS??? No way!
6. Lost
5. Battlestar Galactica (2003-2009) Maybe in the top 10 or 15, but not #5.
4. Buffy the Vampire Slayer FANTASY NOT Sci-Fi
3. Star Trek: The Next Generation Maybe in the top 10 or 15, but not #3.
2. The Twilight Zone (original)
1. Doctor Who

Well, at least Star Trek: DS9 and Star Trek: Voyager didn't make the list.
 
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Y'know, I'm thinking we really oughta just give up on that complaint and just settle for "genre." After all, there are some fantastical elements in B5 -- sufficiently advanced technology being indistinguishable from magic, after all.
 
KoshFan said:
Y'know, I'm thinking we really oughta just give up on that complaint and just settle for "genre." After all, there are some fantastical elements in B5 -- sufficiently advanced technology being indistinguishable from magic, after all.
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Not vampires. Not demons (except for ~possibly~ in Lochley's Lost Tale. We still don't know if that was a demon.). To lump the stuff that I labeled FANTASY in with sci-fi is ridiculous. Sci-Fi is fantasy with science fiction props substituted for magic. Where are the science fiction props in Buffy, Angel, Dark Shadows, Supernatural, Highlander-The Series, or The Dead Zone?

If they wanted to include vampires, demons, etc., thet should have made it a "Science Fiction and Fantasy" poll.

B5 is Soft Science Fiction (one or more presumptions; ESP, FTL, or one major departure from known reality. Emphasis on human reaction and action.)
 
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Chilli said:
A list putting Star Trek: TNG four places over Star Trek deserves nothing but or contempt.
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Quoted for truth.

Wizard is a comic book mag, hence the Hulk & Smallville getting in there. They are the only 2 comic book series that have never totally sucked (season 1 of Louis & Clark aside) ...
 
Dr.Who kicks ass on any poll :thumbsup:

Got to agree that fantasy doesn't belong on that poll.

As much as I enjoyed Star Trek as a kid given a choice I would probably watch TNG before watching the original nowadays <takes cover> ;)

Can't believe Blakes 7 never made it :rolleyes:
 
KoshN said:
What's funny about that? Torchwood should be in the Top 25. There's plenty of non-sci-fi on their stupid list, and Torchwood could take one of those spots.
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Well, maybe Torchwood does deserve a place in the top 25 Sci-Fi shows of all times.

Which just goes to show that there haven't been very many Sci-Fi shows.
 
KoshN said:
Sci-Fi is fantasy with science fiction props substituted for magic.
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Exactly. So why draw distinctions?

Where are the science fiction props in Buffy, Angel, Dark Shadows, Supernatural, Highlander-The Series, or The Dead Zone?
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Dead Zone had a pseudoscientific explanation for John's ability: his brain rewired itself. Buffy had the initiative, and Angel had all kinds of pseudoscience stuff... any time Fred opened her mouth, for instance.
 
Ooh, a semantics argument about sci-fi and fantasy. Fun. Let's all straighten our pocket protectors and put fresh tape in the middle of our glasses before continuing...
 
KoshFan said:
Exactly. So why draw distinctions? .
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Because not drawing distinctions sometimes results in people stretching fanwankery past the breaking point.



KoshFan said:
Dead Zone had a pseudoscientific explanation for John's ability: his brain rewired itself. Buffy had the initiative, and Angel had all kinds of pseudoscience stuff... any time Fred opened her mouth, for instance.
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I'll give you The Dead Zone, but not Buffy & Angel. Vampires and demons? Come on, it's not sci-fi. Similarly, I would not call "The Dresden Files" sci-fi.

You neglected to mention Dark Shadows and Highlander -The Series. Note, we are not talking about Highlander 2 (the awful movie, not the Renegade Edition) where they're really aliens from another planet.
 
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I have to agree with peeps calling some of these shows out (the ones that are not science fiction.)

Have to ask what the D&D peeps are smokin' these days.
 
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