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B5:TLT Actual DISCUSSION Thread
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Joseph DeMartino
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The problem is that the characters outlived the actors. G'Kar dies in 2278, Dr. Franklin outlives Sheridan, Zathras (I) went back in time with Sinclair and presumably died at some point in the past and we don't know how long the other Zatharii live. If JMS will mostly be sticking close to the perios covered by the series there is little room for such "after the character dies" tributes.
Regards,
Joe
The problem is that the characters outlived the actors. G'Kar dies in 2278, Dr. Franklin outlives Sheridan, Zathras (I) went back in time with Sinclair and presumably died at some point in the past and we don't know how long the other Zatharii live. If JMS will mostly be sticking close to the perios covered by the series there is little room for such "after the character dies" tributes.
Regards,
Joe
B5_Obsessed
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In truth, the irony is only crueller to us. I'm sure that playing G'Kar again was the last thing on Andreas' mind in his final weeks and days. He did get one more shot at his character than the rest of the cast(in LoTR). As fans, we mourn him twice, as the real person and also as the character whose stories are forever closed to us.
However, despite the passing of time, I still find the sudden death of Richard Biggs, a healthy man in his early 40s, due to a congenital heart defect to be ifinitely sadder (and crueller) than the death of Andreas Katsulas, whose smoking prowess was legendary, from lung cancer in his 60s.
I too am experiencing a sort of guarded joy, Amy. I am happy that there's going to be more, but the format and quantity of the project, as well as the passage of time, and the passage of beloved actors, makes it a tough pill to swallow.
In truth, the irony is only crueller to us. I'm sure that playing G'Kar again was the last thing on Andreas' mind in his final weeks and days. He did get one more shot at his character than the rest of the cast(in LoTR). As fans, we mourn him twice, as the real person and also as the character whose stories are forever closed to us.
However, despite the passing of time, I still find the sudden death of Richard Biggs, a healthy man in his early 40s, due to a congenital heart defect to be ifinitely sadder (and crueller) than the death of Andreas Katsulas, whose smoking prowess was legendary, from lung cancer in his 60s.
I too am experiencing a sort of guarded joy, Amy. I am happy that there's going to be more, but the format and quantity of the project, as well as the passage of time, and the passage of beloved actors, makes it a tough pill to swallow.
Galahad
Regular
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I wasn't under the impression the dranas were restricted to the years immediately surrounding the 5 year arc.
I have a hunch one of the stories will be Delenn's last journey as JMS mentioned it some time ago. I'd personally also like to see what happened when Valen and Sakai hooked up in the 13th century.
I wasn't under the impression the dranas were restricted to the years immediately surrounding the 5 year arc.
I have a hunch one of the stories will be Delenn's last journey as JMS mentioned it some time ago. I'd personally also like to see what happened when Valen and Sakai hooked up in the 13th century.
Sindatur
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As far as outtakes, I recall reading that JMS said there were no deleted scenes to speak of because he was always working on such a tight budget, so, he knew he had 42 minutes of air time, and the cuts were typically made to the script, before anything was on film. So, I don't think there is really much of anything filmed that didn't make it into the episodes.
As far as outtakes, I recall reading that JMS said there were no deleted scenes to speak of because he was always working on such a tight budget, so, he knew he had 42 minutes of air time, and the cuts were typically made to the script, before anything was on film. So, I don't think there is really much of anything filmed that didn't make it into the episodes.
Jan
Regular
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In general, the scripts were pretty tight, that's true. Even so, the director (or editor) would generally hand in his/her cut with the episode a few minutes long and then JMS would do his cut. Those cuts didn't usually mean much more than tightening things, though, and maybe sometimes trimming a few words here and there.
The other thing to remember is that the raw footage was kept on computer. I don't know if that would have been kept after all this time.
Jan
In general, the scripts were pretty tight, that's true. Even so, the director (or editor) would generally hand in his/her cut with the episode a few minutes long and then JMS would do his cut. Those cuts didn't usually mean much more than tightening things, though, and maybe sometimes trimming a few words here and there.
The other thing to remember is that the raw footage was kept on computer. I don't know if that would have been kept after all this time.
Jan
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The only thing I can think of as far as deleted scenes goes is the stuff that was shot for the cancelled Sierra video game. From what I remember reading, they shot some scenes with the original cast for it. It could be interesting to see if that could be dug up and cleared, since it might contain some of the last unseen footage of two character we aren't otherwise going to see any more. Even if it turns out not to be usable as far as fitting it into a Lost Tale, it might still make a nice DVD extra.
The only thing I can think of as far as deleted scenes goes is the stuff that was shot for the cancelled Sierra video game. From what I remember reading, they shot some scenes with the original cast for it. It could be interesting to see if that could be dug up and cleared, since it might contain some of the last unseen footage of two character we aren't otherwise going to see any more. Even if it turns out not to be usable as far as fitting it into a Lost Tale, it might still make a nice DVD extra.
AnlaShokGrey
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Well, obviously, but I'm sure the role meant more to him than you might think: JMS is practically the only producer to cast him as something other than a mafioso, thug, or terrorist, and certainly the only one to cast him as such in an ongoing role, a starring role, and one of such immense scope and with such fantastic lines. Excepting his stage work with Peter Brook, it was certainly the role of his lifetime.
Actually, Andreas was 59 when he passed.
Thanks. One thing that's great about the B5 fan community is having people to share this with, people who can understand this peculiar kind of grief.
Well, obviously, but I'm sure the role meant more to him than you might think: JMS is practically the only producer to cast him as something other than a mafioso, thug, or terrorist, and certainly the only one to cast him as such in an ongoing role, a starring role, and one of such immense scope and with such fantastic lines. Excepting his stage work with Peter Brook, it was certainly the role of his lifetime.
Actually, Andreas was 59 when he passed.
Thanks. One thing that's great about the B5 fan community is having people to share this with, people who can understand this peculiar kind of grief.
B5_Obsessed
Regular
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Grief and pain are a constant with us, are they not?
After nearly a decade of bad news, we get good news footnoted with bad news.
Grief and pain are a constant with us, are they not?
After nearly a decade of bad news, we get good news footnoted with bad news.
Mindwalker
Regular
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I am hoping for a story about Markas, His path to become a ranger or what he did before he came to B5.
I've not seen any recent pics of the actor but perhaps others could tell me if some light make-up or computer magic could "restore" him to his former self without being obvious? provided he aged well of course
I am hoping for a story about Markas, His path to become a ranger or what he did before he came to B5.
I've not seen any recent pics of the actor but perhaps others could tell me if some light make-up or computer magic could "restore" him to his former self without being obvious? provided he aged well of course
Joseph DeMartino
Moderator
Re: Actual B5:TLT News
This was all covered in the novel To Dream in the City of Sorrows, and I'd be surprised if JMS used The Lost Tales to retelll stories that were already told very well elsewhere.
Regards,
Joe
This was all covered in the novel To Dream in the City of Sorrows, and I'd be surprised if JMS used The Lost Tales to retelll stories that were already told very well elsewhere.
Regards,
Joe
AnlaShokGrey
Regular
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Jason still looks like Jason, but older. You can see him really briefly in the trailer here:
The Final Curtain - indie horror film
I had a picture posted somewhere of our acting class from last September -- I took a class with him on Long Island -- but I'm having trouble finding it. If I can dig it up, I'll post a link. (Jan, you don't happen to have that link still, do you?)
Jason still looks like Jason, but older. You can see him really briefly in the trailer here:
The Final Curtain - indie horror film
I had a picture posted somewhere of our acting class from last September -- I took a class with him on Long Island -- but I'm having trouble finding it. If I can dig it up, I'll post a link. (Jan, you don't happen to have that link still, do you?)
darth_librarian
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Thats all he had to say to make my day...
Thats all he had to say to make my day...
Jan
Regular
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I think a lot depends on the individual project, but in TV (which this essentially is), I think a producer is one who coordinates things on a day-to-day basis. There are so many departments doing such varied jobs, somebody has to keep track of what everybody's doing and make sure that they're all marching in step. They'd also be the ones making decisions that wouldn't require the Exec. Producer.
Jan
I think a lot depends on the individual project, but in TV (which this essentially is), I think a producer is one who coordinates things on a day-to-day basis. There are so many departments doing such varied jobs, somebody has to keep track of what everybody's doing and make sure that they're all marching in step. They'd also be the ones making decisions that wouldn't require the Exec. Producer.
Jan
