Garovorkin
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Jade forget it you might as well talk to the damned wall, You might even get a better response from the wall.
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Battlestar Galactica The Greatest Scif show? or Babylon 5 [Spoilers for BSG S4]
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vacantlook
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Garovorkin
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Vacantlook Im sorry but that guy simply will not quit. It takes a lot to get me ticked, but by god he found a way.
Garovorkin
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Koshfan gee it does kind of remind me of someone, Could it be thinker perhaps?
Garovorkin
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Koshfan point taken, your quite correct. it applies to me as well.
darth_librarian
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Chili, that was class.
Garovikin, ignore lists are your friends. I wish I had one that worked in real life when I was back in school.
Garovikin, ignore lists are your friends. I wish I had one that worked in real life when I was back in school.
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Garovorkin
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Darth , Im sorry , I went a little over board I hope I have not worn out my welcome on this site. When it comes arguments ,I sometimes don't know when to cut my losses and move on to the next topic.
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Garovorkin
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yeah unconventional 4 and 6 letter descriptives including those with ing don't tend add anything of substance to points of arguments. If anything it demonstrates a lack of command of argument respect and decorum on the part of the user, which is very unfortunate, because it doesn't tend to make the person saying them look to bright.
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darth_librarian
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Nonsense. We are all here to swap opinions, after all.
Markas
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DL is absolutely correct. Mostly, this has been a, shall we say, spirited discussion. If it descends into something else, off to the rant forum for most of it. :borg:
thinker2222
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Interesting...........................
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...e:WANKER&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title
Personal insult addressed to a debater is not my style, unless merited.
I see not one yet attempt, aside from me, to argue ON POINT.
Emotionalism is not reasoned discussion, "ladies" and "gentlemen".
The object exercise is to establish that Ron Moore's creation is either "art" or a good "show". Not one concrete argument yet has materialized to prove that it is, however there is a growing body of [my] concrete examples to show that it isn't even third tier science fiction, like Blake's 7.
That is the heart of discussion of THIS thread after all; reasoned argument and educated opinion about that show's status, backed up by FACTs.
Now, does anyone have negation? Not opinion NEGATION. In case you don't know what that means; that is a presentation of objective internal evidence from the series, itself, independent of appeals to authority, straw men, red herrings, debater character assassinations, publicity propaganda, and other logical argument fallacies to defend the premise that Ron Moore's show is a good show.
And don't cite a vague generalized concept like its "complexity". If you don't have proof examples, specific proof examples, you have NOTHING.
Examples for reference:
http://babylon5techmanual.yuku.com/topic/1279
http://babylon5techmanual.yuku.com/topic/1302
http://babylon5techmanual.yuku.com/topic/1254
Note the poverty of ideas in the reviews that afflicts Ron Moore's treatments? Imitation of others. requires some originality, not direct one to one ripoffs of better writer's ideas badly executed.
GINO is not a good show, it isn't even a bad show-its a terrible show as the evidence body shows; and none of you has established one fact in evidence to negate that [my] premise.
NOT ONE OF YOU.
T.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...e:WANKER&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title
Personal insult addressed to a debater is not my style, unless merited.
I see not one yet attempt, aside from me, to argue ON POINT.
Emotionalism is not reasoned discussion, "ladies" and "gentlemen".
The object exercise is to establish that Ron Moore's creation is either "art" or a good "show". Not one concrete argument yet has materialized to prove that it is, however there is a growing body of [my] concrete examples to show that it isn't even third tier science fiction, like Blake's 7.
That is the heart of discussion of THIS thread after all; reasoned argument and educated opinion about that show's status, backed up by FACTs.
Now, does anyone have negation? Not opinion NEGATION. In case you don't know what that means; that is a presentation of objective internal evidence from the series, itself, independent of appeals to authority, straw men, red herrings, debater character assassinations, publicity propaganda, and other logical argument fallacies to defend the premise that Ron Moore's show is a good show.
And don't cite a vague generalized concept like its "complexity". If you don't have proof examples, specific proof examples, you have NOTHING.
Examples for reference:
http://babylon5techmanual.yuku.com/topic/1279
http://babylon5techmanual.yuku.com/topic/1302
http://babylon5techmanual.yuku.com/topic/1254
Note the poverty of ideas in the reviews that afflicts Ron Moore's treatments? Imitation of others. requires some originality, not direct one to one ripoffs of better writer's ideas badly executed.
GINO is not a good show, it isn't even a bad show-its a terrible show as the evidence body shows; and none of you has established one fact in evidence to negate that [my] premise.
NOT ONE OF YOU.
T.
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vacantlook
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(Note: bold emphasis is in the original.) How many times are you going to threaten to unleash such a spewage?
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Markas
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I don't watch this show. I saw the original mini series and it did not pull me in. I cannot comment on the overall quality of the storyline. However, I do have one comment about this:
I don't quite grasp how one establishes "facts in evidence" regarding your extreme disgust with BSG? I do not see how facts have anything to do with an individual's opinion of what makes a show great. Sure, argue why you like a show or not. You have been vehement in your examples of what you see is wrong with the show. I will certainly not disagree with your assessment. On the other hand, why does your opinion carry greater weight than someone like me saying "I really enjoy the general direction of the story, and I love actors X, Y and Z in their roles"? Long-winded analysis, while insightful, doesn't mean "rightness".
I don't quite grasp how one establishes "facts in evidence" regarding your extreme disgust with BSG? I do not see how facts have anything to do with an individual's opinion of what makes a show great. Sure, argue why you like a show or not. You have been vehement in your examples of what you see is wrong with the show. I will certainly not disagree with your assessment. On the other hand, why does your opinion carry greater weight than someone like me saying "I really enjoy the general direction of the story, and I love actors X, Y and Z in their roles"? Long-winded analysis, while insightful, doesn't mean "rightness".
Thinker, I think this is were your getting off on the wrong foot. That isn’t the reason for this thread. It’s not at the heart of the discussion, it’s not meant to have reasoned arguments or educated opinions and IT IS meant to contain opinions.
Calling you a wanker (I laughed my arse off when I realised you looked up the word) is a bit strong, but you are insisting on changing a casual conversation between folks into something else, and expressing bewilderment in the fact no one wants to play on your terms.
That's the original post from the person who created the thread. Note the word opinions.
Start a new thread for a formal critical analysis of the show if that’s the way you want to go
Just a thought.
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Garovorkin
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Given how this has ended up. I almost wish I hadn't started this thread. There was nothing pleasant what thinker and me end up turning it into.
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