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G'Kar a semi-regular?

Re: G\'Kar a semi-regular?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by channe:
By the time of Rangers, the Telepath War has already happened, and, as it's been said many times, Lyta dies in that conflict. So Pat Tallman would not be returning, no.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Um, her character wasn't any less dead during Crusade
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Re: G\'Kar a semi-regular?

Since the Great Rift both JMS and Claudia have made slightly more restrained comments, and left the possibility of Ivanova's participation in unspecified "future projects" open. (Claudia also talked about how she "quit" B5 - her word - in a magazine interview long after the whole thing had blown over. So the quit/fired argument should be buried.)

Bruce's outburst came more from sheet disbelief than anything. If the network is offering you a sixth series of course you take it. He simply couldn't believe (nor could Jerry Doyle) that JMS really meant it when he said "five years and out." (They also didn't understand that because of their one-year contract extension to move the show to TNT, it was financially impossible to continue the show as it was. Everbody would have (rightly) wanted a raise, and the per episode cost would have exploded to the point where the network and the studio couldn't afford to make the show. Exactly as JMS planned it.
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Allowing for flashbacks, I wouldn't rule anyone out.

Garibaldi is a possibility, since he still seems to act as an unofficial troubleshooter for Sheridan from time to time (see, ACtA), and since his vast business holdings would require at least some interstellar travel. (And B5 would likely continue to be a handy meeting place.)

Franklin would mostly be based on Earth as head of xenobiological research, but, being Franklin, he'd also insist on doing some field work, so he could plausibly turn up almost anywhere.

I'd love to see a flashback episode featuring Marcus.
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Everybody seems to think they'd have to run into Lochley if they visit B5 (and they'd have to do that from time to time if the station is in the show's title), but I'm not so sure. They're covert operations types, as likely to be aboard B5 undercover, and they're of relatively junior rank compared to the military governor of a space colony - no more likely to meet with her when they're aboard than an air force captain attending a briefing at a base is likely to drop in on the commanding general. Still, she could turn up sometimes.

Delenn as Entil'Zha is almost inevitable at some point, although again, the crew of a U.S. destroyer in the WWII Pacific would not expect to meet with Chester Nimitz very often, if ever.

How about Tessa Halloran - formerly Number One of the Mars resistance? She's head of covert intelligence for the IA, based on B5, which makes the Rangers her troops in a sense.

Since Bester is a wanted man, I don't think he could plausibly appear more than once, maybe twice, in the whole series. But it could be interesting if he does.

I seem to recall from Bruce's book tour comments, and what he said about the proposed Rangers movie and possible series, that he would not be opposed to returning as President Sheridan. (He thought a series of TV movies with the original cast was the best way to carry the story on.) So there's hope for him, too.

Regards,

Joe

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Re: G\'Kar a semi-regular?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR> ... but, being Franklin, he'd also insist on doing some field work, so he could plausibly turn up almost anywhere. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It'd have to be a Pre-Drakh Plague story.

Once that starts, he's stuck on Earth.

JMS isn't likely to pull the same "smuggle him off the planet" trick twice.
He doesn't like to reapeat himself.



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Re: G\'Kar a semi-regular?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>It'd have to be a Pre-Drakh Plague story.

Once that starts, he's stuck on Earth.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, but I thought that went without saying. Evidently I was wrong.
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Regards,

Joe

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Re: G\'Kar a semi-regular?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR> It's been discussed to death in another post somewhere, but when the series ended, Bruce went on the record publicly denouncing Warner Brothers and JMS because he was "Fired"; that he would appear at conventions for the fans, but that he wouldn't help out with any publicity campaigns, etc, etc. He's also been quoted as wondering why the 5 year period had to be "set in stone"...

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Oh. Well this is the first I've heard of it.

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I don't know anything about actors' credits, but I heard somewhere it had to do with being in seven episodes or more...

Now, ask me about crediting writers, and I can give you an hour-long dissertation.

I think Lochley was featured in the opening credits because she would have become very instrumental in the following seasons of Crusade. There's a reason she was there and didn't just get listed as a guest star - JMS had plans for her that never came to fruition.

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Somewhat off-topic and maybe a stupid question, but if there's that much chance for the involvement of B5 cast members, what about the station itself? Are the sets still standing in the original studio, or are they at least easy to put back together?

If I remember correctly, after ST:TNG ended (maybe after the first TNG movie), the Enterprise sets were either destroyed completely or "transformed" into the Voyager sets.

I'm guessing that didn't happen with B5, but I just didn't know if they really would have to start over on the sets or not.

Also, back on topic, don't forget about Zack. If we're likely to see Lochley, we're even more likely to see Zack. We may see Vir and Ta'Lon too. I guess it really is possible to see anybody.

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That was a new shot of Babylon 5 in the Rangers trailer.

I bet you anything Martel & Co. will end up shopping in the Zocalo before the two hours is out.

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Re: G\'Kar a semi-regular?

The old B5 Babylonian studio has long since passed into other hands. Some of the B5 sets were used in Crusade, and those were put into storage in 1999, but I think they've since been discarded. Since they're shooting in Vancouver now it would probably be easier/cheaper to build new sets on the spot than to truck the old ones all the way from Burbank anyway.

I would expect that we would see the station from time to time in a Rangers series, but they probably won't leave it as a standing set. Most likely they'll have a few standing sets for the ship, a large area for "sets of the week" depending on what planet they're supposed to be on, and a smaller area for virtual set green-screen work.

B5 will likely be represented by a few key pieces used to redress another set when it appears in the show. We'll most likely see the customs area and anonymous corridors rather than elaborate sets like C&C or the Zocolo when the Rangers visit B5. (Or they'll stick to downbelow, which can be created on almost any set if you have enough extras to make it look crowded.)

Soundstage space is always at a premium, and they won't devote it to rarely used B5 sets if they aren't vital to the story. (Even on B5 itself the War Room set could only be built at the expense of the casino - which was not seen again during the Shadow War. They had to pick one or the other.)

Regards,

Joe

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I'm just glad that ALL of these suggestions are a real possibility. The future looks bright for B5. I would love to see Garibaldi's new company's medical division come up with a way to "revive" Marcus! Then he could hook up with Dureena and never have to worry about dieing a virgin again.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JackB:
I would love to see Garibaldi's new company's medical division come up with a way to "revive" Marcus!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Except that he's still frozen a few hundred years into the future... so I guess Marcus is definitely out of the question.

Although Marcus and Dureena would make an interesting couple.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR> Although Marcus and Dureena would make an interesting couple. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wonder if she would be the
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Maybe they cure him, he hooks up with Dureena, the cure fails, they have to refreeze him. Anything to watch Dureena.

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Re: G\'Kar a semi-regular?

No

The short story "Space Time and the Incurable Romantic" was written specifically to make it impossible to revive Marcus during the time frame of B5 or any spin-offs, books, or related material set anywhere close to the time period of B5. So many people bugged JMS about Marcus coming back that he made it impossible, not virtually impossible but impossible, for Marcus to be shown in anything but flashbacks.

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I don't want Marcus to come back. There was a reason he made the sacrifice he made, a reason he's dead and gone.

To bring Marcus back to life would be to cheapen his gift to Ivanova. As the audience, we'd be cheated of that emotion we felt at the finish of "Endgame."

No, Marcus should stay dead for as long as those who knew him live.

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"Space Time and the Incurrable Romantic"? I've never heard of it. Where can I find a copy?

I'd think there's an even chance of them seeing Lockley if they go to B5. On the one hand, they'll be doing a lot of more covert stuff, so it'd be understandable not to see her or even Zack or anyone else from the orignial cast. However, Rangers, from my understanding, have a special status as a kind of arm of the alliance, and thus would have plenty of reason to have a meeting with Lochley or work with Zack and security. It depends on the nature of the mission/visit to the station.

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Lyta will have to return for the Telepath War movie, so we should see Pat Tallman again.

Since I suspect that the super-teep is a clone we may even get to see Lyta #3.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Psi-gryphon:
"Space Time and the Incurrable Romantic"? I've never heard of it. Where can I find a copy?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>It was a short story that appeared in Amazing Stories #602. It was rather controversial, with many people refusing to accept the actions of one of the characters. Personaly, I have little trouble acepting the events, but I thought the writing was pretty poor. IMO, it's not worth tracking down - You should be able to find a summary of it on the web if you really want to know what happens.

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Re: G\'Kar a semi-regular?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR> "Space Time and the Incurrable Romantic"? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A number of people, including JMS, have suggested that a collection of the short stories published in the magazines, along with a few New stories, would sell well enough to make it a profitable book.

Now, if the Publisher agrees...



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If you look hard enough on the 'Net, I know there's a place where it's reprinted. A friend of mine read it online. I haven't gone out to find it, though.

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