i have a lot of questions.....

[**DONOTDELETE**]

I have a lot of questions so here goes ...

1.how do they activate jump gates?? Are they by remote control or something?

2.when b5 declared independence gkar still had sanctuary why then didn’t the centauri just demanded that they hand over g`kar and attack b5?

3.in confessions and lamentations (when the markabs die off) they mention the deadly plague hasn’t been seen for 1,000 years could this be a link with the shadow wars?

4.and how did b5 withstand the 3rd space aliens when the vorlons couldn’t manage them??

All these questions will likely to annoy but I have to know!!!

Sph

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[B5_Obsessed]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>1.how do they activate jump gates?? Are they by remote control or something? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Whenever ships want to use the gate, they'll say something like "begin jumpgate sequence", so yeah, they're remote controlled. They're also the galactic equivalent of shareware. Everybody gets to use them.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>2.when b5 declared independence gkar still had sanctuary why then didn’t the centauri just demanded that they hand over g`kar and attack b5? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Centauri had already attacked B5 in "The Fall of Night" and got their asses kicked. After "Severed Dreams", there were four Minbari warships circling the station, so a direct assault would've been suicide.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>3.in confessions and lamentations (when the markabs die off) they mention the deadly plague hasn’t been seen for 1,000 years could this be a link with the shadow wars? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

JMS has never addressed it as anything other than a natural plague

From jms:

Any time there's a big disease, we get Stupid. The same exact thing happened with the Black Plague, as was mentioned in the episode...instead of blaming gays, the leaders of the time blamed jews and lepers. The whole *point* is to drop politics and scapegoating whichEVER disease it happens to be next...and there is always a next...and focus on the problem: the disease.

jms

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>4.and how did b5 withstand the 3rd space aliens when the vorlons couldn’t manage them?? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmmmmmm. Luck? And a pocket nuke. I think you got me on that one!

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[drakh]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Simon Healy:
4.and how did b5 withstand the 3rd space aliens when the vorlons couldn’t manage them??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Sheridan got the "Vorlon's guide to blowing up the gate in three easy steps" from Lyta and managed to stop them before they'd gotten more than a handful fighters through. The B5 defence force was doing little more than slowing them down, and had things gone on a little further the Thirdspacers would have been unstoppable.

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[Nukemall]

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1.how do they activate jump gates?? Are they by remote control or something?
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Whenever ships want to use the gate, they'll say something like "begin jumpgate sequence", so yeah, they're remote controlled. They're also the galactic equivalent of shareware. Everybody gets to use them.

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They're not actually shareware, since you have to buy usage off the owner (ie whoever built the gate). Alledgedly, the gate can be configured to deny access to certain ships (I think I read this in David Bassom's 'Guide to Babylon 5' but I can't remember).

Regards

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[solaris5]

Well, the humans took one apart and then learned how to build them themselves, so I wouldn't really call them shareware..... And besides, you don't get that annoying: If you like this jumpgate please register it for 29.99

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[A_M_Swallow]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR> Well, the humans took one apart and then learned how to build them themselves, so I wouldn't really call them shareware..... And besides, you don't get that annoying: If you like this jumpgate please register it for 29.99 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That was the Centauri and possibly the Minbari. The humans had to buy jump gate technology off the Centauri. See the first Psi Corps book.

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[Psi-Kid]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Simon Healy:
4.and how did b5 withstand the 3rd space aliens when the vorlons couldn’t manage them??

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As said, only a few dozen or so (I guess) of their fighters got through the Thirdspace gate, none of their capital ships.
So B5 didn't really withstand the 3rd spacers. They just got by with extreme luck and one of John Sheridans patented nukings.

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[Deviot]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by solaris5:
Well, the humans took one apart and then learned how to build them themselves, so I wouldn't really call them shareware..... And besides, you don't get that annoying: If you like this jumpgate please register it for 29.99

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Well yeah Earthers lean't how to make gates but they still have to pay to use certain other gates.


When there is a gate whoever owns the gate can lock people out..otehrwise they generally charge people to use them..

It doesn't cost anyone anyhting to exit a gate but when you go into a gate whatver numbers are logged in and the person who use's the gate gets a bill..


Also with the thirdspace aliens sure the Vorlons had problems with them but the Vorlons did evetually beat them ...losing some Vorlons in the prosess sure....


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[KoshN]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>4.and how did b5 withstand the 3rd space aliens when the vorlons couldn’t manage them?? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by B5_Obsessed:
Hmmmmmm. Luck? And a pocket nuke. I think you got me on that one!

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Well, Thirdspace did take place after Sheridan's contact with Lorien, so maybe that made him immune to the Thirdspace aliens' influence (and also to Lyta, as we see later in Wheel of Fire).

The Vorlon's encounter with the Thirdspace aliens was in their distant past. It's possible that the Vorlons telepathic abilities were not as evolved then as they are in 2261.

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[**DONOTDELETE**]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>1.how do they activate jump gates?? Are they by remote control or something?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Already answered...


<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>2.when b5 declared independence gkar still had sanctuary why then didn’t the centauri just demanded that they hand over g`kar and attack b5?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Because most of the Centauri are not insane. They whopped the Narn, sure, but if they had destroyed B5 they would kill a lot of important diplomats, including Minbari ones (and we all know how pissy They can get about such tings).
Actually if the Centauri captain from "The Fall of Night" had survived his stupidity of firing at B5, he probably would have been in a hell of trouble for it, because he may have gotten the Centauri into a war with Everybody, including EA and Minbari...


<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>3.in confessions and lamentations (when the markabs die off) they mention the deadly plague hasn’t been seen for 1,000 years could this be a link with the shadow wars?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well, well, well, what a strange coincidence...
Just like the destruction of Ikaraa a thousand years ago, sin't it...
Only JMS knows for sure, but we can speculate - the plague certainly wasn't of Shadow origin (since we saw their work is a bit better than that), but certainly there were a number of races doing their work then - a connection certainly exists.


<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>4.and how did b5 withstand the 3rd space aliens when the vorlons couldn’t manage them??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Remember that Sheridan nuked the gate per vorlon instructions before a significant number of TS ships could come through - we don't know what happened a million years ago (though we can speculate from Lytas story that the Vorlons were overconfident again, and taken by surprise, and didn't get their thing together until a lot of TS forces passed the gate. They still prevailed in the end, but not completely...)

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[KoshN]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>2.when b5 declared independence gkar still had sanctuary why then didn’t the centauri just demanded that they hand over g`kar and attack b5?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ShadowScout:

Because most of the Centauri are not insane. They whopped the Narn, sure, but if they had destroyed B5 they would kill a lot of important diplomats, including Minbari ones (and we all know how pissy They can get about such tings).
Actually if the Centauri captain from "The Fall of Night" had survived his stupidity of firing at B5, he probably would have been in a hell of trouble for it, because he may have gotten the Centauri into a war with Everybody, including EA and Minbari...
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I think I'd be most worried about pissing off the Vorlons.

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[GKarsEye]

Regarding the possible Shadow connections with the Markab plague and the Ikarran slaughter, it is possible that when people say, "1,000 years ago," they are rounding off a lot. They could have happened 876 years ago, or 1134 years ago. But most people would just say, "Oh, it was about a thousand years ago." 1,000 is a very pretty number. It's also possible the JMS really likes that number (it does sound dramatic) and never intended it signify any connection. Or not.

My guess is that the Ikarran thing may have been related to the Shadows, because it was a war that was happening at roughly the same time as the Valen events. If the Ikarrans were not directly at war with the Shadows or their minions, they could have been involved in a conflict that was created by Shadow influence, like the Narn / Centauri war in the series (that is, the Centauri were not the Shadows' servants, but they were egged on by the Shadows through Londo and Refa.)

I also guess that the Markab plague was not related to the Shadows at all. The "message" of the episode is that the disease was natural, and people assigned morality and other non-medical attributes to it. Like AIDS, there are conspiracy theorists who think that it was created by the government, or a curse from God, etc, where the simplest and most reasonable conclusion is that it's just another disease, albeit a tough one to cure. Because AIDS was thought to have originated in the gay community, little was done to contain and prevent it, making the disease more widespread and dangerous than it need be. The same holds for the Markab plague. If they hadn't been so caught up in "purity" or whatever, they could have survived.

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